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    Posted 2 months ago

    LSadowy
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    I have the missing drawer and the wood veneer that has come off. The drawers contain a complete tool kit and lots of extra pressure feet and needles, as well as a couple of other items I don’t recognize. I don’t think it’s worth much because it’s pretty grubby, but with a good clean I do think it would work again.

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    1. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      LSadowy, Cool. :-)

      I don't know whether you wanted any age, model, and decal set information about your machine, but what the heck. };-)

      It looks like the serial number is 12231560, which would mean that it was one of 562,000 serial numbers allotted in 1894:

      *snip*

      11,913,500 12,475,499 1894

      *snip*

      http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/serial-numbers/singer-no-prefix-serial-numbers.html

      The Sandman Collectibles identification guide suggests that it's a model 27 or 28:

      *snip*

      If your machine is the Full-Size model with the 14 to 15 inch Bed (35cm to 38cm) then you have the Model 27. If your machine is the 3/4-Size model with the 12 to 13 inch Bed (30cm to 32cm) then you have the Model 28.

      *snip*

      https://www.sandman-collectibles.com/id-singer-machines.htm

      I didn't see anything in the pictures at the International Sewing Machine Collectors' Society (ISMACS) website that looks like your decal set, however, the UK site singersewinginfo has it, and calls it the "Singer Sewing Machine Apple Blossom - Decal #37," used on model "VS":

      https://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/decals/decal37/

      The Singer VS models were the ancestors of models 27, 28, 127, and 128:

      https://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/28/
    2. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      Whoops, and your cabinet looks like some variation on Singer Cabinet Tables No. 2 or No. 3:

      http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/cabinet_table_no_2-3.html
    3. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      Heh. I see that you already saw the sibling of your machine and cabinet here at CW:

      https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/76502-singer-1893-sewing-machine-i-think-it-i
    4. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      LSadowy, I checked, and some of those links in the other post of a similar Singer sewing machine are defunct (not an unusual problem).

      The one for a manual of a Singer VS2 still works:

      http://www.clawges.com/sewing/VS2_Manual/index.html

      Here's another for the VS2/27:

      http://www.sewmuse.co.uk/Singer%20VS%202%20Model%2027%20Manual.pdf

      And here is a manual for the 127/128:

      http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/manuals/127-128.pdf
    5. LSadowy, 2 months ago
      Keramikos, thank you for all that information! I did find the serial number on another site, which said it was made in 1864, so not sure. The cabinet does have the drop down leaf. And yes, in my research I found the other machine on here with the orange blossom pattern, which is why I’m on here....lol. I don’t know if I can add more photos, but there was a page in the drawer from a machine “The Singer 99K”, copyrighted in 1953, so I don’t think it goes with the machine. Thanks also for the links to the manual, I will print that off and give it, along with the machine and cabinet, to my friend who loves to sew more than I do.
    6. keramikos keramikos, 2 months ago
      LSadowy, You're welcome. :-)

      Hmmm, 1864. Which site was this?

      FYI, that date seems doubtful to me, because the model family and style of your machine would seem to date it to no earlier than circa 1885:

      https://www.quiltingroomwithmel.com/2018/02/history-of-singer-27-vintage-sewing.html

      I used the International Sewing Machine Collectors' Society (ISMACS) tables for dating your serial number, because they seem pretty careful. They tend not to publish anything unless it's been pretty well researched.

      Yeah, I didn't find that other, older, CW post with the similar machine myself until you 'loved' it, and thereby brought it back up to the more recent pages of S&T. :-)

      Orange blossoms, huh? You could well be right about that. The folks at the Needlebar archive called it Orange Blossom/Dogwood:

      *snip*

      NB #12 Orange Blossom, Dogwood
      Used on: Model 27 (rectangular bed), VS3/Model 28 - 1891
      Recorded use: 1890 - 1894

      *snip*

      http://needlebar.org/nbwiki/index.php/Singer_Machine_Decoration#NB_.2312_Orange_Blossom.2C_Dogwood

      http://needlebar.org/nbwiki/index.php?title=File:012a.jpg

      http://needlebar.org/nbwiki/index.php?title=File:012b.jpg

      Somebody on that older post thought the floral motif might be clematis, and it could be that as well.

      I just went with what that UK Singer site called it, which is apple blossoms. :-)

      As to adding more pictures: the limit is four per post, but some people edit their pictures and splice multiple images together so that they can have more than four images in a single post. The downside of that technique is that the images become rather small.

      Another technique is to make another post, and then link the two in their comment sections.

      Well, good luck. I hope you have fun restoring this machine to a usable condition, and gifting it to a friend. :-)
    7. LSadowy, 1 month ago
      Thank you Keramikos for the additional information. I found the date on a site, contrado.co.uk. I will try to link it here. Yes, I should make a PicFrame collage with a few photos, then I could add in the photo of the dates on their page. https://www.contrado.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/serial-numbers.pdf
    8. keramikos keramikos, 1 month ago
      LSadowy, You're welcome. :-)

      There is no need for you to add more pictures just for that PDF at contrado dot com dot uk; your link works perfectly well.

      I suspect that you misread the information at that PDF because of the format they used (it's a bit crowded-looking). That information agrees with ISMACS; it's just arranged a bit differently:

      Your serial number:

      12231560

      Contrado PDF:

      1894 11,913,500-12,745,499

      ISMACS:

      11,913,500 12,475,499 1894

      Also, the use of commas might be grammatically/mathematically correct, but it has a tendency to trip one up when one is trying to match a number that doesn't have them. :-)

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