Posted 12 months ago
steve.mcal…
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Still works but does need a tune-up. The table and bench are in good condition, sturdy - but the bench would need upholstery .
The Sewing Motor Controller does 89-145 Volts Amp. 0.7
The controller has a standard 2 prong 110 volts plug and the machine has a 3-prong connector.
Hi, steve.mcallister. :-)
A Singer 411G. Cool.
The "G" suffix on the model number means that it was "made" in Germany, but the history of the model 411G is a bit tangled, because some of the 411 sewing machine heads apparently were made in Canada, and assembled in Germany, e.g.:
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Singer 411g - The head was made in Canada in 1961, sent to Germany for completion as this model. They only made this model for 2 years in 1964/1965. It can do chainstitch as well as lockstitch.
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https://www.pinterest.de/pin/353251164517714178
The serial number should be somewhere on the underside.
I can't tell exactly which cabinet you have, because you're only showing the backside in your pictures (the hinged leaf is on the right instead of the left), but it might be cabinet No. 71:
https://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/71_cab.html
Here is a gallery of more cabinets in case it isn't the number 71:
https://www.singer301.com/cabinet/default.html
The Singer 411G is a member of Singer's family of Slant-O-Matic sewing machines. About the Singer slant-needle ancestor, the 301:
https://www.singer301.com/about/default.html
About the 411G specifically:
http://www.oldsewingear.com/blog/get-the-4-1-1-on-the411-slant-o-matic
A manual:
https://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/manuals/singer-411g-ib-sewing-machine-manual.pdf
Thank you kerimakos for all these details... will check for the serial number and add more pictures.
steve.mcallister, You're welcome. :-)
This machine intrigues me. Possibly a Canadian-made casting assembled in Germany, but wired for the USA (110-120 VOLTS AC, and a USA-style plug).
I wish that I could tell you exactly where on the undercarriage to look for the serial number, but I couldn't find any pictures online.
If it's anything like its ancestor the 301, it might be here:
https://www.singer301.com/dating/images/SN%20Location.jpg
The format of the serial number will probably be two letters followed by six numbers.
If you read down through the blog I linked below plus the comments, there is a potential explanation for at least some model 411G sewing machine heads to have Canadian serial numbers (the German factory was a former Haid & Neu establishment, and possibly it took some time to retool for making Singer sewing machine heads):
https://danhopgood.wordpress.com/2017/11/23/singer-401g-vs-411g/
In case you're curious or concerned about the textolite gear, this site has a picture of one:
https://www.slant.zone/singer-411g-electric-treadle-convertible/
That textolite gear is not unique to the 411G; many models of Singers have one:
http://www.oldsewingear.com/blog/singer-401as-dirty-little-secret
If you're planning on overhauling your sewing machine head, this person has a lot of excellent general advice:
https://pungolivinghome.com/
You're only allowed four images per post, so you'll either have to delete some of your existing photos to add different ones, or make a new post. If you make a new post, you can link the two through their comment sections.
If you don't know how to do that, I can do it for you.
steve.mcallister, Hopefully, the serial number on your 411G is in the same place as it is on a model 401:
https://www.victoriansweatshop.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1309144725&postcount=2&forum=501752
Essentially, the left edge of the undercarriage.
FYI, the person who gave this advice is somebody with extensive hands-on experience with vintage sewing machines.
steve.mcallister, I don't normally like linking to eBay listings because of their tendency to disappear, but if you look at this one for a Singer model 404, there is a picture of the undercarriage, and you can see a serial number stamped into a boss on the left-hand edge:
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/JmkAAOSw7oBjrKQL/s-l1600.jpg
https://www.ebay.com/itm/225321715800
In this case, the serial number has an "AN" prefix, because the sewing machine head was cast in the Elizabethport factory.
In the case of your 411G sewing machine head, it'll probably have either a JA through JE (St. John's) or a PA through PY (Karlsruhe) prefix:
https://s-ish.com/dating-information-for-singer-vsms/
If you look at page 96 of the operator's manual, you'll see a drawing of the undercarriage:
https://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/manuals/singer-411g-ib-sewing-machine-manual.pdf
So it is JE - serial number and it has a Made in Germany stamp on the side.
steve.mcallister, Thank you for going to the trouble to take more photographs, and add them to your post.
I did finally find a photograph of the undercarriage of a singer 411G on this French site:
https://dom-jon.com/singer-411g
The serial number on that one looks like "PB256064," which would mean that it was cast at the Singer factory in Karlsruhe, Germany (the former Haid & Neu facility):
https://sewalot.com/dating_singer_sewing_machine_by_serial_number.htm
Singer actually has the best records of any vintage sewing machine company, but they are not perfect. :-(
Unlike most Singer serial numbers, the ones out of the St. John's factory can't be narrowed down to a single year, but rather just a range of years.
JE275103 would fall into the last group, the upper range of which is unknown:
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JE 1961 - 19??
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https://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/stjohns
So about all we have to go on is the opinion of VSM enthusiast and Pinterest user Lindsey Borsa who wrote that the 411G was only produced 1964/1965:
https://www.pinterest.de/ellellbeedeedee/my-vintage-sewing-machines/
A sad story about the St. John's factory which might possibly explain the poor record-keeping there:
https://singer-featherweight.com/blogs/schoolhouse/singer-sewing-at-the-st-johns-factory-quebec-canada
This website has replacements spool pins for the model 411G, and extensive information about them:
https://shop.archaicarcane.com/product/singer-411g-431g-spool-pin-replacement-kit/
Some other sites with 411 parts:
https://www.singeronline.com/421g.html
https://www.sewingmachinesplus.com/singer-411-parts-accessories.php
https://www.sewingmachinesaustralia.com.au/shop/buy-spare-parts/singer/singer-411
I'm sorry that I couldn't find more information about your machine.
You might find it worthwhile to join this group of VSM enthusiasts, because they're very knowledgeable in general, and a couple of their members have a Singer 411G:
https://www.victoriansweatshop.com/post/does-this-look-complete-and-is-it-a-411g-11658430
Where could I sell this machine and get a decane/juste price for it?
*decent
Hi, again, steve.mcallister.
You're entering dangerous territory on Collectors Weekly Show & Tell:
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/answer-desk/whats-appropriate-on-show-and-tell
About all the advice I can give you comes from the International Sewing Machine Collectors' Society (ISMACS) website:
https://ismacs.net/sewing_machine_articles/how_much_is_my_sewing_machine_worth.html
To that, I would add that you should try to sell it locally, because vintage sewing machines are heavy, and shipping would be expensive.
Per this picclick listing, a Singer 411G weighs 21.5 lbs:
https://picclick.com/Singer-Heavy-Duty-Slant-O-Matic-Multi-Stitch-411G-Sewing-223202838755.html