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    Posted 8 months ago

    Golgatha
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    Here's an unusual large Chinese porcelain urn with lid. 65 cm high. Obviously export ware with the 'Paris' judgement' decoration. One of the three ladies is missing, but who cares. How old or young wood you say it is ? Unfortunately I can't translate the text on the bottom. I hope you can ?

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    1. apostata apostata, 8 months ago
      insert Taiping Imperial Readings -Wuchen cycle
    2. Golgatha Golgatha, 8 months ago
      Many thanks for the answer ! I'm not sure I fully understand. Can you add a few words ?
    3. apostata apostata, 8 months ago
      no you get a whole answer in a few days, this is a quite known trick , which you also see on porcelain rabbits and cats, i will take care of it all in a few days
    4. apostata apostata, 8 months ago
      well our Nemesis from Gotheborg com call this Yang Cheng Wu Chen Nian Zhi-and they translated this as Canton Wu Chen Year Made, which IMO is an historical etymological fallacy because canton is redefined as Guangzhou since 1918

      the more poetic translaters call this fabricated in the City of Rams in 1928, that,s the hillbilly translation

      and whij is this supposed to be 1928, because of the Wuchen part of the mark , the symbols with the backward sloping T

      we are not out of the woods yet because the chinese lunar calender is hopping with intervals of 60 years so we can choose 1806-1866-1926-1986 etc

      actually the origianal pieces are mid qianlong to late qianlong ( a so called westernizers) , but this aint real, it is static , probably used a decal , the tonality is wrong

      IMO the get rid of aphrodity and they swapped it with eros

      so they want to represent 1928 , probably it is just represented,

      are we out of the woods yet, probably not, as far as i can see the kong -qiang is out , which is the cavity at the bottom , who were a hype around the 20 ties, this is a non cavity= WU KONG -QIANG so probably a bit later

      why the hillbilly translation City of Rams, personnaly i think the Taiping Imperial Readings -but the social antroposofical meaning trough history change all the time

      chinese were poor during early chinese history ( probably due to the lack of crop rotation and and the social stratificatie was also a burden)

      we get s sort of DEUS EX MACHINA SOLUTION ( immortal ex machina solution, hahaha) the immortals infested the town the accompagnied bij rams, and the famine dissapeared and the rams got a sort honorary titel as ihuang shengli zhe-- They who beat the famine, so they became a symbol of good fortune
    5. Golgatha Golgatha, 8 months ago
      Thanks again ! So all in all a Republican China export ware from 1928. Not often we're told the exact age of a piece of Chinese porcelain.
    6. apostata apostata, 8 months ago
      so they want to represent 1928 , probably it is just represented, sorry it is a 9misonderstanding typo ) probably it is bit newer then 1928
    7. Golgatha Golgatha, 8 months ago
      I considered bidding on it, not as an antiquity, but as decoration. But thanks to you, I didn't. Thanks again !
    8. apostata apostata, 8 months ago
      wise decision of you. looks nice , but this is nickle and dime, stuff, you got the hang of this, wuchen dating are tricks also on the snuff bottles

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