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    Posted 17 days ago

    QueenofCups
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    I took a chance and purchased this 3-piece set on eBay. I was alerted by the craftsmanship of the goldwork, the deep saucer, the twisted/intertwined handle, the finial, and the cartouche/medallion on the cup. The seller could not decipher the mark on either cup or saucer, nor can I, since they are smeared or blurred, and I realize that as a result I may never know for sure who the maker is…but I am guessing the set is English, based on the gold design and motifs and a little research on military uniforms of the late 1700s and early 1800s. I wonder if it’s a syllabub cup. I would like thoughts as to maker and age.

    Saucer: 5 ½” diameter, 1 ¼” high, has well for cup
    Cup: 3 5/8” tall, 3 ¼” diameter, tapers toward bottom. Twisted gold handle. Inside edge totally worn away (probably was gold design) to depth of 5/16”.
    Cup with lid to top of finial: 5 ½” tall. Finial is a gold knob with 3 gold leaves and stem.
    Glossy glaze.
    One unusual motif I have never seen before: chain links, designed to look like swags.
    Oak leaves (symbol of England) predominate in the gold motifs.
    Several firing flaws and small pits; surface of cup feels slightly uneven where gold bands are.
    Heavy weight, solid pieces despite delicacy of goldwork. Only 1 hairline crack, in lid underside, does not show through. Gold loss throughout, though handle or finial gold isn’t worn.

    Cartouche on cup: Man’s face with wild hair (or a helmet with feathers; possibly British or American dragoon, used by horsemen in Revolutionary War and War of 1812). He holds a thin flagpole with an unidentifiable flag. Also pictured is a shield (not used in either war), a drum below the shield, a trumpet, a sword (double guards, not the type used by horsemen), and two “tubes” (fifes? batons? gun barrels?). All surrounded by laurel leaves and sprigs. A commemorative set for Napoleonic Wars, Revolutionary War, War of 1812? But: if a commemoration for the latter two, why would a British maker celebrate these, since the British lost these wars?

    Mark: in red under the glaze, on both cup and saucer, in an irregular circular pattern, arranged around a blank center. The closest I can come to a mark with a blank center (from looking at hundreds) is Coalbrookdale, 1805-1810.

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    1. QueenofCups QueenofCups, 14 days ago
      Thank you for the love!
      chen50, Leelani, Bronmar, Merrill33, OldDust, day2no1, sherrilou, fortapache, WhenIsraelbelieves, Newfld
    2. PhilDMorris PhilDMorris, 13 days ago
      Very much in the manner of Sevres porcelain which I love !~

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