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Art Nouveau3224 of 3274Loetz Phenomen Genre 1/158, circa 1902Loetz Medici examples, around 1902-04, yellow, green and the last two are called "spreading chestnut"
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    Posted 13 years ago

    bullelk
    (2 items)

    This plate is deeply intaglio carved on the reverse, it appears to be a Steuben or Sinclair blank and has Hawkes type swags on the outer rim. I am stumped on this, I have collected art glass for 25 years and have never come across anything this detailed...the engraving is unbelieveable in form and detail. I would appreciate any thoughts. Thanks, Mark

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    1. mark mark, 13 years ago
      franzwig@cox.net Contact Franz, he is one of the leading experts on American Brilliant Cut and Intaglio Glass in the country. He just might be able to help.
    2. kmb, 13 years ago
      This is new engraving on an old blank. Several excellent European and English engravers are doing this quality of work on Steuben, Val St. Lambert, and Orrefors blanks. Moser blanks are not leaded and can be distinguished on that basis from the others if the signature has been removed.
    3. bullelk, 13 years ago
      OK, it has been confirmed with reasonable certainty this is a Morgatown blank by the West Virgina Museum of Glass. I can say for certain the wear marks on the bottom of the plate are over the engraving, it is not recent engraving. Corning felt the engraving was in the 150-200 hour range. I'm not sure why someone would take this time on a $3 blank...exhibition piece? Thoughts?
    4. bullelk, 12 years ago
      Thanks so much, it is the most detailed copper wheel engraving I have ever seen. There is even string between the beads on the necklaces. I have been researching this for almost two years now and am trying to identify the swags on the outer rim. I found one from Hawkes that is very close but not exact, and am hoping if I can identify the outer rim design with a known or signed piece I can start honing in on the artist. Everyone who sees this in person is awed at the detail with the last local expert saying "holy s***" at a glass show...it is simply amazing. Most items I see engraved with anything even close to this are on expensive blanks or documented exhibition pieces...I have titled it "Glory on the Mount", seemed fitting. There is no question both the plate and engraving are old, as age wear is evident on the reverse intaglio edges. Thanks again for any input, it is truly appreciated!

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