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Enno Sander Mineral Water Co.
Enno Sander Seltzer & Soda Co.
Enno Sander started importing mineral water into St. Louis, Missouri as early as 1878. He also bottled mineral waters and soda waters.
The bottles pictured are fairly common around here and date from the 1930's and 1940's. The amber colored bottle may be a bit harder to find.
After taking the photos I realize I need to upgrade some of these styles before they all disappear.
Enno Sander Died in 1912, and the bottling company was purchased the Meyer / Meinhardt Soda Water Co. keeping the Enno Sander name.
Enno Sander Selzer & Soda Co. was then acquired by the B-1 Bottling Co of St. Louis in July of 1947.
The first pic, second bottle, looks to be a lot older. More like 1910s. Same with a few others. The colour of the clear glass bottle last pic, looks older too. What's the base say?
Thanks for the post great info.
SpiritBear I have checked the bottles on the first pic, both bottles have no markings at all, Either wore off or never had anything, I can tell you that the seams on the side do not go all the way through the lip or opening at the top.
Pic 2, bottle 1 looks like the 18 on the outside base, Sander embossed on the bottom, nothing else. Bottle 2 has the I in a diamond, (I believe this to be Illinois Glass Co) with the number 2 over the diamond and the numbers 1041 on the outside base. Bottle 3 has the oval, diamond I (Owens/Illinois glass co.) with a 9 to the left a 1 on the bottom and a 1. on the right. Also G5463 on the outside base.
Pic 3 bottle 1 has the I in the diamond with a 1 on top and the numbers 1133-0-27 on the outside base. Bottle 2 only has the numbers 20 S 1 on the outside base and bottle 3 has the numbers 24 S 1 on the outside base.
Tell me what you think, I am learning something new every day.
Thanks
This is long but worth reading:
Your info said they were all '30s-'40s. The last American glass companies that I know making tooled-crowns, which means a human took a special tool to the top to form the mouth, went out in the 1920s. Any crown-top, which these all are, bottle that is Continental US and sees the seams stop before the mouth is likely pre-1920. My "newest" tooled crown I dated to 1918. They all switched over by the mid 1920s to full ABM (Automatic Bottle Machine.)
The markings on glass can only wear off from the surface being removed. Even well-tumbled glass still retains some markings in most cases. Markings that appear to be worn off are from manufacturing errors, such as an old mould needing cleaned or air preventing the letters from forming, or even a not-deeply-cut mould.
Always check around the heel for little markings that escape many people's eyes-- I identified a bottle shard's product by its glasshouse marking alone, not what little embossing I had to work with (Diggers gotta know all this crap.)
Pic 2 bottle 1 has the appearance of a 1910s bottle, so 1918 is possible albeit the 18 is probably just a mould number.
<I> would likely be Illinois Glass Co, which went out in the 1920s.
<(I)> would be Owens-Illinois, which it became, and they usually are read like this:
_______"#
"Plant # <(I)> Date Code
_____Mould #"
(Ignore the "____" just gotta make sure it spaces right.)
Date-codes on them are typically like "44," but in the 1930s they often did only 1 number. An "8." would be 1938.
BUT, if there is NOT a dot right after the single-digit number ("8") then it would stand for 1948.
If it says DURAGLASS, it's 1940s-1970s. They sprayed something onto the glass to make it more durable.
Sometimes Owen-Illinois is just (I) too, might I add.
Now for your # S....
American Bottle Company at its Streator, Illinois location did that.
The # is the year, 1910s-1920s. Therefore those bottles are 1920s.
As for G####. I think those are just mould identifiers for if a mould needs recalled, due to an error, or something.
ROOT Glass Co. did that, but they're easy to identify as R.G.Co. or ROOT.
These were all major glass-houses back in the day, so it's no surprise a major bottler looked to them for bottle supplies.
Thanks Again SpiritBear. Its nice to be able to put dates to the bottles.