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    Posted 12 years ago

    samcat69
    (4 items)

    sweet clock, but cannot trace the case. any help out there? has very clean ansonia movement, open escapement

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    1. toolate2 toolate2, 12 years ago
      Nice alabaster Ansonia mantle clock from around 1885?? I'm sure case and movement started life together... but I'm not sure if Ansonia produced these cases in house or not. Is that what you're asking?
    2. samcat69 samcat69, 12 years ago
      Thanks. Yes, as far as I can tell, around 1885 sounds pretty close. As I have been unable to locate ANY pictures of a clock looking like this, just maybe the case was produced in France or somewhere. I wonder if that would add to the value since I haven't ever seen any others like this.
    3. toolate2 toolate2, 12 years ago
      Have you checked here?
      http://www.antiqueansoniaclocks.com/Ansonia-Clock-Model-Names.php
    4. samcat69 samcat69, 12 years ago
      yes I have, to no avail.
    5. Shawnl86 Shawnl86, 12 years ago
      Oh the Color is Lovely!
    6. Bruce99 Bruce99, 12 years ago
      Looks like you have an Ansonia "Amoret" in white onyx. It's from circa 1904, found on page 351 of Tran Duy Ly's Ansonia Clocks and Watches reference book. Just to be sure, Ly list this model as measuring 11 3/4" in height, by 12 3/8" in width with a 5" dial. It was appraised by Ly at $400 in 2004 when in mint original condition. It doesn't appear to be a common clock. Like you I couldn't find it anywhere else on the net so current market value is a guess. A very similar model known as the "Alexis", (with a plain, flat top) has recently sold on eBay for around $130. Your "Amoret" would probably be worth a lot more to an Ansonia collector though. Hope this helps. Happy collecting!
    7. samcat69 samcat69, 12 years ago
      Hi Bruce, yes it is very similar to the amoret, and the size is the same. I find it very strange that almost all clockmakers have made models, probably in limited production, that are very similar to others but there isn't any pictures of them.
    8. toolate2 toolate2, 12 years ago
      White onyx! Very cool!! Bruce, you're the man!!!
    9. Bruce99 Bruce99, 12 years ago
      Hi samecat69, just to be sure that I'm clear, I meant that the Ansonia "Alexis" is a similar model to your clock which I'm pretty sure is the Ansonia "Amoret". Is that our understanding? I agree with you. Seth Thomas Adamantine mantel clocks have a lot of similar, unlisted or hard to find models.

      toolate2, no, you are! :) I'm just very focused on antique clocks with a lot of reference materials at my fingertips.
    10. samcat69 samcat69, 12 years ago
      Yes, your'e clear. The more I look at the top of clock at different angles it does look more like the Amoret on pg. 351 And yes, the S.Thomas adamantine clocks must have had parts swapped every other week at the factory. Nice clocks, I have quite a few, but trying to trace them can be a real nightmare.
      Thanks for all the help.
    11. Bruce99 Bruce99, 12 years ago
      You're very welcome! Thanks for sharing with us.
    12. Tutushouse, 12 years ago
      In the process of cleaning out my mother's house I came upon a clock that looks a lot like the one above. It is very heavy and when I picked it up to try to see if it was signed or what the movement looked like the marble casing fell apart in my hands into several different pieces. Well, after it fell apart it was easy to find the markings on the movement It is stamped "JAPY FRERES EXPOSITION 1855 GRANDE MEP D HUNNEUR" Did I just lose something very valuable and does the movement have any value on its own?
    13. samcat69 samcat69, 12 years ago
      That is one I never heard of,could be a japy clock?
    14. Bruce99 Bruce99, 12 years ago
      Always important to pick up and carry any mantel clock with your fingers under the bottom of the case. Not sure if you did or not, just saying... Japy Freres was a widely recognized and respected French Clock Maker/Manufacturer. See this link:http://www.antiqueclockspriceguide.com/japyfreresdates.php
      If the marble, or onyx...etc didn't break up into small pieces, the case can probably be restored. Save everything, whether you decide to have it restored yourself or not. Perhaps someone else would take it off your hands and run with it. Good luck.
    15. Bruce99 Bruce99, 12 years ago
      Hi Sean!

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