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    Posted 4 years ago

    Karenoke
    (100 items)

    This is a pure peppermint oil bottle from approximately 1860 or so....I think?
    Photos taken with sunshine this time.
    Very grungy.....sorry.

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    1. Karenoke Karenoke, 4 years ago
      Forgot to mention the peppermint oil maker was Hotchkiss.
      The bottle maker is ???.....I have no idea....lol
    2. Karenoke Karenoke, 4 years ago
      Also, the rough places on this bottle are not chips. But manufacturer boo-boo's.
      So around the neck is smooth.
      This bottle is really cool to hold, look at and ponder all the things it's lived through in it's lifetime.
    3. SpiritBear, 4 years ago
      I really like to feel things, to get a sense of what they are. Try this page, as that may help date it by the base:
      https://sha.org/bottle/bases.htm

      I just can't say one way or another, as it's either pontilled with an odd feature, or it's from a regular mold with a circular patch of rough glass and some kind of indentation in the base of the mold.

      As for what it's been through in it's life, it was 150 years of being in a wall, attic, or basement.
    4. Karenoke Karenoke, 4 years ago
      Thanks SpiritBear! I appreciate the info. I took the hint from one of your other comments and looked of glass molds and/or molded glass making, and feel pretty certain it was made exactly as you suggested. And I finally found one online that sold in 2007. But it only shows a pic of the front, and it has an entire corner of the label missing. Thank you for trying to help me figure this out, I much appreciate your help! But considering I'm no bottle collector...and what the exact one sold for in 2007, don't be shocked if you see this bottle in an auction on eBay....lol. As I'm not rich either, but I love to pick.
    5. SpiritBear, 4 years ago
      I probably will see it, then, as I deal in labeled bottles. I don't usually do food bottles, though.
      If it's a big-ticket item and you've not sold a lot on e-Bay with good feedback, wait a while and sell lesser items. Buyers are more likely to risk money with an experienced seller on a site, than a start-up like I.
    6. Karenoke Karenoke, 4 years ago
      Oh wow, that's good to know.
      I've never sold anything on eBay. My son signed up one time and listed something I did not give him permission to list and it sold for 50.00 and I said NO way. I don't know how to age it, or really even what it is. But it's clearly old. And because of what he done I've never posted it on here. I don't want the embarrassment of someone recognizing it and complains to or about me.
      Thanks for the advice SpiritBear!
    7. fortapache fortapache, 4 years ago
      Grungy is good.
    8. Karenoke Karenoke, 4 years ago
      Thanks for the love and kind comment Fortapache!
    9. Karenoke Karenoke, 4 years ago
      After much research, I've taken a closer look and this bottle is blown. As it is full of bubbles.
    10. SpiritBear, 4 years ago
      Yes, blown for sure with an applied top. But, there were many kinds of molds they were blown into. Everything from hinge molds to cup molds to dip molds. I cannot tell if this was a standard mold which they grabbed it with a punty rod, or if it is just some other feature from the mold or as it was cooled.
    11. Karenoke Karenoke, 4 years ago
      Hey SpiritBear, I did some more research on the Hotchkiss company and learned their early bottles were made by Ely Glass Works and were dark blue. Looking at my notes, I see I didn't write down what year Ely went Of of business....dangit!
      But after Ely they started having F. E. Reed Glass Co. make their bottles, and they were amber colored. This bottle looks more green to me, but I wonder if direct sunlight could have caused that? I also learned that the awards they won in Europe, which are depicted on the label, were won in 1851. So I'm sure it was made after that. I'm still researching but I also have custody of my younge granddaughters and that takes time and I get burned out and research other stuff I've come across.
      However I would appreciate your opinion of the Heckler Bottle Auction house? I sent them a couple pics and a message asking for details about how their consignments work? And exactly what they will charge to help me sell it. No word from them yet.
      I'm a talker...lol...as if you couldn't tell. But I have learned an amazing amount about bottles and know I haven't scratched the surface. Oh, also the label on my bottle was applied with a sealing wax that was heated with a candle.
      Thanks again for your input and help, it's much appreciated!
      Looking forward to hearing back from you!
    12. SpiritBear, 4 years ago
      Your bottle's shape is a generic "utility bottle", often used for everything from mineral water to hair products; several countries made them like this for a century. although I'm pretty sure yours is American-made. It would have been common to buy a standard bottle (well, a bulk shipment) and throw a product in and a label on it. Its colour has always been a dark olive, as that was a common colour in the glass due to what was in the mix available.
      I'm afraid that I don't play with auctions other than e-Bay. I'm sure they'd charge you an arm and a leg, but they are often able to sell glass for a little more than its normal worth. Not always, though. One you become an experienced seller on e-Bay, you may be better off there if you list it correctly (I've bought some good items that were very poorly listed, to the point of you'd not find it if you tried to) and have a minimum starting bid that you would be satisfied with. Or, you can roll the dice and start it at .99 cents and see where it goes from there. The problem with your bottle is, the label is so very dark. I think, though, it would be safe to say it's an 1860s or 1870s bottle.

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