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    Posted 2 years ago

    Golgatha
    (206 items)

    Here's a Chinese gilt bronze figure of Wenchang Wang. Late Ming. 16.-17. century. 34 cm high. His hu scepter or tablet is missing. What amazes me is that it seems to have been three sided ! All other hu scepters or tablets I've seen were flat. Do you have an explanation ?

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    1. apostata apostata, 2 years ago
      entry marking (homework)
    2. Golgatha Golgatha, 2 years ago
      Thanks for the comment. Can you explain ?
    3. apostata apostata, 2 years ago
      because i don,t believe this piece at all, but i am running ‘The Evolution of Bronze Style in the Jin, Yuan and Early Ming Dynasties, and did a lot a lot of MING my self , but that was 15 years ago

      and i need a break i am only here for therapeutic reasons
    4. Golgatha Golgatha, 2 years ago
      Thanks Prostata. So you're a forger ? Are a forger's words to be trusted ?
    5. apostata apostata, 2 years ago
      actually to be honest i don,t trust this, there is no serenity in the eyes, it is just an incision , like cutting chees, with an cheese knife , the eyebrows are angular as a sort of added modeling in the mould


      vertical application which looks an easy way out application in the above the head frontal

      the statue don,t have flaking or granula forming and it is just vanishing of the gilt, also the gilt should have had corroded into a more yellow patina

      the gilt is very shallow , and beneath the gilt there is a strange kind of patina , actually this coating is unknown to me as patina

      I'm familiar with open work thrones pieces during the ming dynasty, but I don't know this in this way

      basically you are committed to wave spike wave pattern thrones, see

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      Beeld - Brons, fijne vergulding - A MAGNIFICENT BRONZE FIGURE OF WENCHANG WANG - China - Ming Dynastie (1368-1644)

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      NR. 35370759 catawiki

      actually i think it is a recent piece with a not so promising mould
    6. apostata apostata, 2 years ago
      as far as i know i have never faked or forged anything, but that offers little comfort, because i have many nasty qualities
    7. Golgatha Golgatha, 2 years ago
      I've consulted an independant, Chinese expert on oriental art. He has confirmed that the figure is as old as it looks to be. Now I'm considering how to make a copy of the lost hu scepter or tablet. I know what they looked like.

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