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Posted 6 years ago

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This belt buckle was found at the Salvos about fifteen years ago and gives a little away about my past. I used to wear it out in the evenings when I was still hitting the bars up the road. These days it’s slightly tarnished. Life mellows one out. Not that it is overly fancy for a belt buckle but it shined up well.

I’m sure it’s solid silver but it’s not marked. In Australia everything has silver marks except colonial silver; so I’d always supposed it was ‘foreign’.
I need some help with this one. Perhaps it’s Mexican? Perhaps someone on Collector’s Weekly can help me here?

It’s 7.5 cm or 3” across.
The decoration is hand chased across the face of the six-pointed star.

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  1. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    Many thanks Sean B!
  2. AmberRose AmberRose, 6 years ago
    I agree. Mexican or Native American...70s tourist??
  3. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    Hi Amber, many thanks! Thanks too to Marc, musikchoo and inky too!
  4. AmberRose AmberRose, 6 years ago
    Hey V, the more I think about this, it reminds me of what Mexican gauchos wear as decoration???? Perhaps something like that???
  5. AmberRose AmberRose, 6 years ago
  6. AmberRose AmberRose, 6 years ago
    Hmmm, maybe not. It is in my brain somewhere...
  7. AmberRose AmberRose, 6 years ago
    Why Navajo?
  8. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    Believe me Bellin, it's not plated. It's silver! I can smell silver plate! I'm allergic to nickel and I always smell silver items - the smell of the alloy is quite distinct.

    That was Douglas Fairbanks with too much slap wasn't it? Looked like me after a hard nite of party in the nineties! Mind you, I was an avid viewer of the Cisco Kid in the fifties! Duncan Renaldo was king! We never saw it in colour!

  9. AmberRose AmberRose, 6 years ago
    I don't remember the 90s ;))
  10. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    .... and I wonder why not? ;(
  11. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    Many thanks mikie and Amy too! Purpledog and inky earlier too!
  12. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    Many thanks scandinAmy and Collectiblesunlimited too!
  13. AmberRose AmberRose, 6 years ago
    This has been bugging me as I know I have seen it before...concho belt link!!!
  14. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    So now I'm looking at Concha rather than Poncho and Cisco? I've seen the beautiful one with the shell shapes on the leather belts. The decorative technique is certainly similar to Navajo work.
  15. AmberRose AmberRose, 6 years ago
  16. AmberRose AmberRose, 6 years ago
    There are a ton of beauties on USA eBay too
  17. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    Thanks again Amber! I'm still looking for one similar. I'll have to look up Navajo star symbols?
  18. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    Have you seen Grandma Margaret?
    Navajo string games (youtube)
  19. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    And on the topic of 'string games':
  20. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    Well I'm having a look into it, Sean. The hexagram is a nest or worms to research: satanic overtones, the Jewish symbolism. I'm into a new line around the Lakota at the moment. There are also references to something called a Koch Fractal. There are two stars there on the buckle. One within the other and those lines linking them all are a bit different too.
    Check this site out:
    It's all pretty "out there" in the weirdest way, mind you!
    I'm really getting into it!
  21. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    Check this out too!
    I went to Vinnies this morning at the top of the street and came back with a Navajo style basket in red black and cream. I had just finished the CW entries and went and had a look at it ten minutes ago!
    Two six sided stars, one inside the other. You would not believe it!
  22. AmberRose AmberRose, 6 years ago
    Are those war drums I hear in the distance? Better circle the wagons...
  23. AmberRose AmberRose, 6 years ago
    Sherriff's badge??
  24. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    There are now three six-pointed stars!
    One for Amber, one for Sean and one for me?
    Howdy, partners!
  25. toracat toracat, 6 years ago
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    Janet Moser

    And he causeth all, both small and great,

    Rich and poor, free and bond,

    To receive a mark on their right hand,

    Or on their forehead.

    And that no man might buy or sell,

    Save that he had the mark,

    Or the name of the beast,

    Or the number of his name.*

    Revelation 13:16,17


    And I saw…them that had gotten the victory over the beast,

    And over his image and over his mark…

    This study is dedicated to those overcomers during the Great Tribulation period who, because of their love for the Lord and His Word would will lose their lives rather than take the Mark of the Beast. They will be the true heroes of the Tribulation period, whom God will richly reward.

    …and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which did not do ho
  26. toracat toracat, 6 years ago
    Hi really I think it may be Argentina! I was just joking about CURSE!! please do not put one on me!! toracat your friend!!!
  27. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    Thanks toracat!
    I'd seen some articles about this as well.
    It does raise some questions. no?
    Objects can be full of latent symbolism.
    Then boom: the 'cat is let out of the bag'.
    Symbols can be cross-cultural and may be limited to a particular tradition as well.
    This is still 'a work in progress' as far as I am concerned.

  28. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    I was looking around for Apache baskets and found this image that relates to my belt buckle.


    It's an internal image within what is called a 'tetractys' .
    That shape is called the 'enneagram'.
    Rather than the beast I think it refers to things not Chrristien: astrology,
    It's Pythagorean! It's Masonic! It's Kabbalistic!
    By hidden I mean you need to look within the ten points of the triangular tetractys.
    Then move to the 'enneagram'
    It's a double mandala. Cross-culture. Gurdjieff.

    These more here:

  29. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    Did you see that basket at Bonhams? The same shape. And the basket has animals and figures within those areas. It's weird!
  30. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    Those were major baskets of a dealer and collector Lynn D Trusdell. I had a look at a lot of the amazing jewellery too!
  31. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    Many thanks Sean. The power is back on. We were without the net and light, everything for five hours. Had to leave home to eat!
  32. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
    Many thanks ho2cultcha!
  33. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    Many thanks AGHCOLLECT!
  34. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    Many thanks NUTSABOTAS 'n BELLIN too!

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