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Posted 6 months ago

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I am having a hard time identifying where this pottery was made. The folks I bought it from said it was Hopi but I am not so sure. It does not look like Mata Ortiz to me. It is not heavy and the walls are very thin. The name on the bottom is Otila Sandoval. Can anyone help me with this. Thanks.

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  1. SEAN68 SEAN68, 6 months ago
    beautiful!!!
  2. AQ-antiquequest, 6 months ago
    Thanks Sean. It really feels good when I hold it. Very light, excellent workmanship wherever it is from.
  3. SEAN68 SEAN68, 6 months ago
    Your very welcome AQ !!! Tis very beautiful I bet it feels smooth and feels good to hold!!
  4. racer4four racer4four, 6 months ago
    The decor looks Mata Ortiz and has that burnished look but as you say seems too light. It's a great piece of pottery no matter who made it but I hope someone can help you id it!
  5. antiquerose antiquerose, 6 months ago
    ???

    I think this is something of the origin of ACOMA PABLO and is something called POLYCHROME ?? Throwing that out there.......as just what stuff I have seen that looks similar to this......but still a ???
  6. antiquerose antiquerose, 6 months ago
    here is something by the daughter-in-law of Felix and Mata Ortiz:


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/MATA-ORTIZ-CASAS-GRANDES-POTTERY-MINI-POT-BY-RAQUEL-SANDOVAL-ORTIZ-/161153298044

    No sure if that helps.....but try googling FELIX AND MATA ORTIZ
  7. AQ-antiquequest, 6 months ago
    Hi Racer4,
    A lot of the Mata Ortiz I've seen is much more refined, this is more primitive in style and workmanship. I've seen a lot of pottery and this one has me stumped.
    Antiquerose,
    I will do some research on the ACOMA PABLO. Never heard of that before. Thanks.
  8. AQ-antiquequest, 6 months ago
    Hi antiquerose, Did you mean Acoma Pueblo? That's all that comes up on google. Mata Ortiz is the name given to pottery from a certain area of Mexico. The stuff they are doing down there is really reaching a high level of artistic achievement. Pretty impressive for south of the border. The body of this piece is very different from most of the MO I've seen. But sill there is the possibility. Thanks.
  9. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 months ago
    My apologies but my copy of The Miracle of Mata Ortiz: Juan Quezada and the Potters of Northern Chihuahua is on loan at the moment to a friend here in Sydney. Therefore I don't have the list of names associated with Mata Ortiz on hand to check for you.

    On the net there is mention of Raquel Sandoval Ortiz the daughter of Felix and Otila Ortiz who is a 'rising star' of Mata Ortiz pottery.
    http://pl.pinterest.com/vqtrader/mata-ortiz-cases-grandes-pottery/
  10. AQ-antiquequest, 6 months ago
    Hello Vetraio50,
    Thanks for the info from the other side of the world. Sandoval is also a name among the Navajo and a few other Pueblo tribes in New Mexico. That's one of the things that makes this search harder. I can't believe all the help. This is my first item and I just listed it a little while ago. What a great forum. Thank you to everyone.
  11. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 months ago
    I think it is a nice pot. Maybe someone on CW has access to a copy of the book. I will email my friend and asks her to check the name from the lists ..... the number of people involved is quite extraordinary.
  12. AQ-antiquequest, 6 months ago
    Vetraio50, the daughter Raquel Sandoval Ortiz and the mother Otila Ortiz suggest there might be an Ortila Sandoval in there somewhere doesn't it? You might be on to something. Thanks.
  13. antiquerose antiquerose, 6 months ago
    @ AQ -- Yes I meant Acoma Pueblo as a possibility..... :)
  14. CanyonRoad, 5 months ago
    I can solve the mystery. This is positively Mata Ortiz. The potter is Otila Sandoval de Ortiz, listed in "The Many Faces of Mata Ortiz."

    Some Mata Ortiz pots do resemble Hopi in the color of the clay, but Mata Ortiz pots have a rounded bottom, and when they are signed, the signature is incised. Hopi signatures are always painted on with the same dark slip used to decorate the pots, before they are fired.

    Acoma pottery is generally black and white, or black, white, and orange (polychrome...meaning "several colors.")
  15. TrishC TrishC, 27 days ago
    Hello-
    I have a piece almost identical to this one, however, mine has painted rabbits around it. I can tell mine is very old due to the beautiful green patina which has formed at the base and bottom of my bowl. I too, am not completely sure which tribe my piece is from, however, I do believe it is from a South Western tribe either in Arizona or New Mexico. When I was there I saw pieces similar to mine made by Hopi and Navajo Native Americans. I am leaning more toward Navajo on mine and yours but, it's a educated guess.

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