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Posted 5 months ago
blunderbuss2
(83 items)
This bronze dutch cannon sat on the waterfront in Philipsburg, St. Maarten for many years. It disappeared some years ago & I found it on the French side for sale. The musee' mentioned it to me & I told them I knew where it was. I took these pics of it & they didn't do anything. It was sold to somebody in Nevis. Now they want to get it back! Apathetic procrastinating people make me want to scream. Will it be retrieved? I'll do what I can.
This gun was made in Amsterdam. The trunnions are mounted below the axis of the bore. In about 1800, the trunnions were moved to the centre-line axis of the bore in the western world. The markings show that it was made in 1780-81 & the trunnion positions indicate up to about 1800. Beautiful gun. Should be enjoyed by everybody instead of the rich in places like the Four Seasons.
Helm, this is not the cannon we are trying to retrieve here, - we hope!
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uhhhhhhhhhhhh -- might want to re-read your post -- who was lost -- you or the canon -- glad you found yourself on the french side -- you quack me up!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for pointing that out. Actually I also disappeared on the French side for 13 yrs.
i bet there's a story -- how doooooooooooo you do it
Why do you think I go by Blunder?
Museums and art galleries can be the stupidist people so when saying the museum should have it can be a blunder. Usually the museums have a large history of not buying pieces because they want you to donate it and also provide a large cash donation for somewhere or thing special built to display it. The Metropolitan Museum of New York is famous for that. Turning down large art collections in the first half of the 20th century because it did not come with a large cash donation. And some of the land in Ottawa was taken over by the government because the govt had to own the best for the Prime Ministers residence, so they took it over. The Gov't kicked the last resident out and ruined the last part of his life. Politics of museums run that way also.
I just think you should have bought it and dangled it from a string like a carrot and see the museum squirm.
Phil, I already own 1 cannon that I don't pickup because I don't know what to do with it. I repeat, I'm trying to lighten my load. Besides, anything that lies within territorial waters belongs to the island & not who brings it up.
Hi Lucas, had me going for a minute...I did think for a second that it was the end-result of the planned dive recovery...now I remember you mentioned this particular cannon a good while back. It was parked up on the French side (as you say above) and you couldn't get any one to listen to you re: it's location. BUT I didn't realise it has now been spirited off the island all-together! You write that the Musee now want it back... bit bloody late now!!..they should have acted when you went to them with all the facts!. I have worked with/for/in several Museums and one of those was World Heritage recognised! I fully accept the edgy comments about them, and in my experience some of the "stuffed shirts" can be a bit "dim" but this is taking things to new depths.....they should be FURIOUS that it's on Nevis...it proves my point I made in my posts "Lost Guns of Jersey"...these things DO have an positive impact on visitor atraction and income boost for the authorities coffers... Just why do "they" think it's now on Nevis? When are they going to listen? I dispare!!!! :(
It's the same with the bronze cannon on your seabed it can only be a fillip for the historical attraction of the island!!
Steve you're back! Actually I know the people who sold the gun but they didn't know I was connected with the musee' & Histerical Foundation. I asked & they told me where it went.
I'm still worried that they are one in the same but the diver swears he has seen it after the other one was known to be in Philipsburg. Still having trouble getting expedition launched. They bitch about a simple little thing like high rollers because we have had 18 mph winds for several weeks. Bunch of whimps.
Yup I'm back...just for 24 hrs. Been a bit windy out there has it? We're getting our first snow.............
Steve
Snow is a 4 letter word. We have been running 14-18 mph winds for weeks and no let-up in sight. Hoping it doesn't go calm for the Heineken Regatta like it did 1 yr.. What happened to that "global warming" they keep promising? Sitting here wearing a leather jacket!!
hi blunder -- did the klinkerloop (dutch for their goodwill stores) today -- got all caught up in a set of books on collecting antiques -- i now know what a bluderbuss is -- which i have been curious as to what your handle did refer to -- how did you come to choose this handle -- have a great weekend
Ep, visit my home (site?) & understand. I have 2 brass barreled dunderbus's & love them both. Since the value of over-printed money has brought their value to about 1/10th of their original value, I'm leaving them to the local muse'e & hoping they appreciate them as I can't bring myself to sell them at insulting prices. I have posted them & quite appreciate your interest. We still shoot them as brass/bronze doesn't deteriorate with age. Quite a thrill & can be a wrist breaker.
Hems, we will miss you expertise again for how long? I've lived way to long in this part of the world to ask questions. Hopefully I can roust-out some people to ck that gun soon. We can't order them into action now days. Guess the good-ole-days are gone for good. Naughty, naughty thoughts! I didn't say it.
Fortunately I DO get to order people into action (I pay them)...but I also get ordered into action...I'll be gone perhaps 3 weeks? ...uncertain...Might be able to snatch away-day CW access if I start to get the shakes......anyway.....EXPERTISE? missed?? my Ar@%!.....
Hey Lucas!! I nearly forgot!.....Guess what!...I have blagged an afternoons shooting black powder while I'm away..It'll be freezing cold but worthwhile I'm sure. Also going to be taught casting our own rounds beforehand...just look what you've gone and got me interested in now! (Wife says I can try but NO buying...she knows me too well!!) I'll report back, when I get back! Bye 4 now!
Steve
Warning Steve, it's addicting. When you get to where you actually like the smell of blk. pdr., it's too late to turn back. I've got a .50 cal repro I need to get out & shoot. Only fired it once when I shot my secretary. Didn't know it was loaded when I shipped it down! That's another story though.
Had someone to do the snorkeling today but when I got there he had had a few beers & wanted to wait till tomorrow which was alright with me. He called me an hour later & tells me he has a job on a boat going to Antigua & will be back in a few days. This is the crap I have to put up with working with these boat-people.
hi i love your find i wish you@ i could take it . duck hunting sometime hear at home
At about 2,700 lbs, I don't think it would make a good punt gun russ.