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    Posted 3 years ago

    truthordare
    (366 items)

    The identification of antique art glass is full of pitfalls, perpetuated by people who have a general idea of what the glass is, only because they have heard others repeatedly saying so.

    This is a good French glass example here, described as 'verre de Clichy' on Ebay France (Clichy glass), but the whole idea is wrong. I found A French site that is similar to some of ours in English, such as 'glassmessages' and CW. Where collecteurs discuss glass pieces, and there was one such identification process for a piece of glass similar to mine.

    You have to know that mid 19th century Clichy in Paris area, did not make this type of glass, by 1900 they were absobed into another glass plant. Legras on the other hand was famous for it's great variety in spatter glass items, we have the documentation of three catalogs to prove it, the years were between 1895 and 1900. They did produce a magenta and blue decor called SALAMBO, this is the link to the catalog page, which is very detailed and in large drawings, I recommend you have a look at the whole thing, all the pages. Very interesting with all kinds of glass pieces each with own unique product names and numbers .
    https://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Legras-1898.310+B6YmFja1BJRD0zMTAmcHJvZHVjdElEPTEyODIxJmRldGFpbD0_.0.html

    My piece here is a nice medium 6 inches size glass container or holder, the French call this a 'vide poche', the thing you use when you empty your pockets after you get home, for men mostly.

    To go back to the French website discussion, the consensus was: not Clichy, much like Legras antique glass, but a recent reproduction. This is not a big surprise for us, as we have here on CW several examples of Legras reproductions such as their Soleil design in pink and yellow spatter, and a molded round glass imprint of a circle with rays.

    When I suggest to study other countries glass from the same period, this is the sort of thing I mean. A general knowledgeable base of what happened to some glass plants, and why we see this glass again and again today. Somebody somewhere is selling reproductions. Our French experts and the site realorrepro.com suggest to examine your glass piece, look at the price range, look for signs of wear, and look at the finish of the rims etc.

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    1. Newfld Newfld, 3 years ago
      Beautiful spatter piece & love your pix Lisa, when upside down it reminds me of a seashell
    2. truthordare truthordare, 3 years ago
      Thanks Jenni, I was inspired by other glass images taken in front of a window, instead of a neutral background. We dont have much sun these days, a lot of gray days, but the white snow has a brightness that compensates.

      I also find the shape of this piece intriguing, you are right like a big seashell, with little feet. LOL.
    3. truthordare truthordare, 3 years ago
      If anybody wonders, there is absolutely no signs of wear on the pristine blue glass tooled feet. This is new glass. Incredible, right?
    4. truthordare truthordare, 3 years ago
      Nicefice,
      That made me smile.... I 'borrow' stuff from my husband too. lol.
      Yes, the vide poche is an interesting utilitarian piece, I could not find a word that meant the same thing in English. The neat thing is that they made all kinds of them in the style of the day, from 19th century onwards. Some are metal, wood, porcelain, etc.

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