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    Posted 10 years ago

    vetraio50
    (731 items)

    Decanters seem to be totally out of fashion these days. But I've always been out for a good piece of glass at a bargain price. This was another thrift shop find twenty years ago.

    For years I had thought that this was an Italian decanter because of the tooling. Then I came across the Whitefriars site for collectors and checked through their early Victorian glass. What I found was the stopper, amid a group of decanters from the late nineteenth century. This decanter is a variant of these, I suppose.

    http://www.whitefriars.com/decanters.php

    The stopper is blown too with a trapped air bubble in the "cork' section. The top part of the stopper is hollow, has dimples and striations to a tooled finial. It is numbered and that number matches the decanter's number. The stopper reflects the design of the decanter below. The body has a high shoulder and sits on a foot with a ground pontil.

    I love the double rings on the neck which are tooled as well.

    I think it might be a design by Harry Powell.

    Thanks now must go to lovedecanters here on CW. He has told me that it is indeed a Whitefriars decanter: "Good news, I now quite certain that this is Whitefriars. I went to the Museum of London a couple of weeks ago and they have quite a big collection of Whitefriars glass and in amongst the Whitefriars glasses was a tumbler that goes with this decanter. I bought my decanters and glasses at auction in a single lot back in the 90s so am fairly certain they are together. In addition to this I was looking through a booklet called Decanters 1760-1930 by David Leigh and hey presto there it is. David Leigh seems quite cautious about attributing things, using the words possibly and probably quite a lot, but he was definite this is Whitefriars. Due to the way he has worded the attribution of makers in the book I think he must have some source material in order to make this attribution. Whitefriars, go for it."

    I am happy to know that it is Whitefriars.

    The firm of James Powell and Sons, also known as Whitefriars Glass, were English glassmakers, leadlighters and stained glass window manufacturers.

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    Comments

    1. vetraio50 vetraio50, 10 years ago
      Many thanks to BELLIN68, mon amie scandinavian_pieces and AmberRose too!
    2. vetraio50 vetraio50, 10 years ago
      Many thanks Dean. I reckon you are right!
    3. vetraio50 vetraio50, 10 years ago
      Many thanks frankieboy! Happy New Year!
    4. vetraio50 vetraio50, 10 years ago
      Many thanks inky, jrfm410 & michelleamieux.
      My apologies for not getting this together earlier!
    5. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks miKKo and mustangtony too!
    6. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks bratjdd!
    7. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks mustangtony!
    8. lovedecanters lovedecanters, 9 years ago
      I would love to be able to attribute this for you, as I have 3 decanters, a jug, 6 tumblers and 5 glasses in the same pattern. I can tell you that it is not in the Jackson or Museum of London Whitefriars books, both of which have a lot of illustrations. The double feathered neck ring and tight twisted wrythen neck is not in any other Whitefriars glass I have seen either, so I think you can rule that one out. I suspect it is John Walsh Walsh and if not them, Stevens and Williams or Stuart, as I believe they were all producing this kind of quality dimpled glassware. BTW this type of dimpled glassware is looking back to Roman glass which was being excavated at the time. Kind Regards, Kevin.
    9. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      And thank to you too Kevin!
      From yet another Kevin.
    10. lovedecanters lovedecanters, 9 years ago
      I thought you might want to see there is one for sale on ebay. The price is on the high side though.
      http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LOVELY-ART-NOUVEAU-DECANTER-/230921540240?pt=UK_Art_Glass&hash=item35c3ff1290
    11. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Thanks for that lovedecanters!
    12. lovedecanters lovedecanters, 9 years ago
      Good news, I now quite certain that this is Whitefriars. I went to the Museum of London a couple of weeks ago and they have quite a big collection of Whitefriars glass and in amongst the Whitefriars glasses was a tumbler that goes with this decanter. I bought my decanters and glasses at auction in a single lot back in the 90s so am fairly certain they are together. In addition to this I was looking through a booklet called Decanters 1760-1930 by David Leigh and hey presto there it is. David Leigh seems quite cautious about attributing things, using the words possibly and probably quite a lot, but he was definite this is Whitefriars. Due to the way he has worded the attribution of makers in the book I think he must have some source material in order to make this attribution. Whitefriars, go for it.
    13. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks for your efforts lovedecanters! I envy you being able to go down to the V&A and Museum of London. And you have four! I passed up two in Sydney here a year ago because of their condition. Totally corroded inside. I'm pleased to have this one. Thank you so much, Kevin!
      What do you think, Harry Powell?
    14. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Hi JayHow. I saw a turquoise drunken bricklayer at the Collector's Market here in Sydney. The dealer wanted five hundred or more I think. I passed. It was still there a month later unsold.
    15. vetraio50 vetraio50, 9 years ago
      Many thanks petey!
    16. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      Many thanks SEAN & TOM61375!
    17. tom61375, 8 years ago
      You are very welcome vetraio50! =)
    18. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      Many thanks AGHCOLLECT!
    19. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks BUCKETHEAD & ALDO !!!!
    20. BHIFOS BHIFOS, 3 months ago
      You missed out one important fact........what do you keep in it? :)
    21. vetraio50 vetraio50, 3 months ago
      Brandy. For cooking purposes only.

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