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Agustin's items8 of 52Handpainted enameled cup from VeneziaDaum, Degue, or ?
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    Posted 6 years ago

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    Hello, someone can give me a hand to know what these two dishes are and what is their brand. I bought them from another antiques dealer because I liked them, but I can not find any reference.
    Thank you very much for the help.

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    1. SpiritBear, 6 years ago
      You have good taste. I think these ones have some age to them. Most of the "Chinese plates" sold as antiques are actually mid-century to 1980s reproductions. The mark on the back of these, and how they were painted, look several decades older, though.
    2. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 6 years ago
      I think that this is a Japanese Imari plate. Imari was made in China too, but the mark on the bottom of this one looks like the marks on some of the better Imari pieces.
    3. redbottles, 6 years ago
      Hi, I'm new on here but this mystery intrigued me so I've spent alot of time trying to track these down. : ) I have no expertise but my feeling from research is these are not very old. Imari designs are very "clean" with each design staying in its own area on a plate and not crossing over into another section so I don't think these are imari. The plates seem pretty thick so that makes me wonder about their age as well. The biggest clue, however, is the artist signature? in the flower on the back. I think it says "lio" or "lia." Westernized writing would be unusual on an antique? I tried searching for the chrysanthemum marking but came up empty despite an hour of trying. : ) I thought the chrysanthemum in the center of the front would be a good clue to its age but the only thing I found for that was one from the Quinlong era and I guarantee Westernized writing was not used then! My best guess is these are from an artist with their own studio. Could be a terrible guess. lol.
    4. apostata apostata, 3 years ago
      i don,t know what it is , but it looks good enough to me , actually i trust the mark and the glazing , i think a sort of meiiji imari

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