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    Posted 7 years ago

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    I have been an collector for many years of transportation memorabilia, signs, clocks, pinback buttons, ect. I have noticed recently how many fake pinback buttons are appearing on eBay, as well as signs, ect. This particular example in above photos is a perfect example. This seller is representing this button as very old. This button, if authentic has sold for a few hundred dollars. It is very obvious to me, it just came off the press fresh. The pin is not correct, no aging to reverse whatsoever, lot of problems. However to the unseasoned collector, it may look great. Buyers are unknowingly paying ridiculous amounts of money on a fake item. Unfortunately there is no way to contact these bidders. Years ago, I would contact bidders and give them heads up. I have even contacted sellers about there deceitfullness. Unseasoned collectors be careful, do your homework on whatever you are collecting, buy reference books, talk to other collectors, learn as much as you can, ect. Get as much knowledge as possible, before making big purchases. Unfortunately, this type of deceitfullness, turns some collectors from hobby permanently, when they do find out they have a fake or fantasy item. Buyers Beware!

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    1. AutoPinback64 AutoPinback64, 7 years ago
      Thank You roddyq and manikin. Much Appreciated!
    2. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
    3. AutoPinback64 AutoPinback64, 7 years ago
      Thank You roddyq, manikin,,CindB, vetraio. Hope all of you have a happy new year.
    4. Caperkid, 7 years ago
      Happy New Year!
    5. advertisingfan, 7 years ago
      Thanks for posting this information Auto.
    6. Alan2310 Alan2310, 7 years ago
      Wish you and your 2017 is fill with, Peace, Love, Prosperity and love.
      All the best.

    7. racer4four racer4four, 7 years ago
      Great post Pinback.
    8. antiquerose antiquerose, 7 years ago
      ~ HAPPY NEW YEAR 2017 ~ Thanks for following me !! All the best to you and your family !!
    9. fleafinder fleafinder, 7 years ago
      Thanks for the reminder auto! Always must do alot of research and open our eyes before buying anything dubious. Happy new yr!
    10. AutoPinback64 AutoPinback64, 7 years ago
      Thank You fleafinder for comments and love. Happy New Year!
    11. AutoPinback64 AutoPinback64, 7 years ago
      Thank You racer4four for nice comment and love. Happy New Year!
    12. AutoPinback64 AutoPinback64, 7 years ago
      Thank You antiquerose. Happy New Year!
    13. AutoPinback64 AutoPinback64, 7 years ago
      Thank You Caperkid, blunderbuss2, nicefice and alan2310 for the love. Much Appreciated!
    14. kerry10456 kerry10456, 7 years ago
      Thanks for the insight, hate the people that do this
    15. rocker-sd rocker-sd, 7 years ago
      Thanks for the heads up, I too see so much stuff on ebay selling that is questionable. I follow porcelain signs regularly and have noticed that here are a lot of repros with distressing to make them look old hitting the market. It is sad because it begins to affect the value of authentic pieces. One of the things I do is always check the sellers other items, and completed items. You can see if they are selling the same thing repeatedly. Also where they are located. The sign market is be flooded right now with fakes from india.
    16. AutoPinback64 AutoPinback64, 7 years ago
      Rocker-sd, Thanks for your comments and I agree 100 percent with everything. yes I too collect signs as well and you are so right the market is flooded. I see lots of coke signs, Chevrolet signs, ect, that I know for sure are fake and some fantasy pieces as well. You are a smart collector, an obviously well seasoned, because if they have several that is the first red flag. It is just really frustrating that eBay has a system now set up where you cannot warn or contact other members. It not only affects value of authentic signs it also turns a lot of would be collectors from hobby when they get burned.
    17. TedHake TedHake, 7 years ago
      This is beyond true. I've also encountered many people doing this. It's hard to believe that someone would do this to another, but this is no surprise at all. I'm really glad you're bringing light to this situation.
    18. PoliticalPinbacks PoliticalPinbacks, 7 years ago
      Sad but True, It's always helpful to see the back side to help make the call,
      Even with the newer federal Law that requires the clear marking of reproduction button's I know of one who has been selling fake WWII (and now fake Vietnam) button's for years on ebay I won't say his user name but it starts with "Great" but still no way to warn others, It's one thing to sell and buy knowing it is a re-pop if your into them but some make the effort like the seller noted who will use pins from the era or look to be anyhow with newly printed reproduction paper under the celluloid. Buyer beware for sure. SAD!
      If in doubt ask Ted he literally wrote the book(s) on buttons and or see the APIC site APIC = American Political Items Collectors they have several pages of reproductions and what to look for. (in most cases)
      I've gone as far as to contact some sellers in case they were not aware of what they were selling however most the time they stick with there story.
      Thanks for the post.
    19. AutoPinback64 AutoPinback64, 7 years ago
      Hi, PoliticalPinback! Nice to to hear from you. I agree with everything you stated. When I contacted sellers. I, like you, you received in most cases, the same kind of response. Frustrating to no end. Great, that even though you did not state the scam eBay sellers full name. You gave enough clue to give everyone an heads up. Thank You for that. I too, am a member of Apic. If you collect pinbacks, even it is not political, it is a superb group to belong to. Finally, Ted Hake is the man when in doubt. I personally have had dealings with him, as well as a friend of mine. PoliticalPinback stop by more often, Don't be a stranger.
    20. PoliticalPinbacks PoliticalPinbacks, 7 years ago
      Thanks I will try to make it on more often, I haven't had the pleasure to meet Ted in person just bought some button's from him both on fleabay and his website even have a Ted Hake button that I will post soon.
      Enjoy the hunt, John

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