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Bohemian Art Glass1527 of 6592Loetz Rubin Phänomen Genre 166 Vase, st PN II-73, ca. 1898The Ruckl Interwar Era Glass Collection - the multi colored spatter pieces in orange
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    Posted 4 years ago

    truthordare
    (363 items)

    Here is a good example of differing Czech glass producers, yet the shape is the same, but the size, fabrication and decor are not. None of these vases are marked. The pink and orange vases are the same size, 9.75 inches high. The blue spatter is 8.25 inches high. Another CW member also has these vases in two different sizes, we find it interesting that they can be attributed to different brands,

    The blue vase has a cobalt blue interior glass layer, then a spatter in mostly red and orange glass chips with bits of other colors were applied, followed by a clear glossy glass surface layer. Not marked.

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    Comments

    1. Wow22, 4 years ago
      I'm confused by this post. Are you suggesting pink and orange by same maker with blue by different maker because of different size? Agree with Jericho that many items were produced by the same house with different sizes and different decors of the same basic shape. Without having glass in hand, the rim treatment and base treatment look similar. What makes you think they are from different producers please?
    2. truthordare truthordare, 4 years ago
      Wow22, sorry I thought it was obvious. Perhaps sometimes you forget to explain yourself. I'm sure Jericho has seen this with his glass collection, sometimes it looks by the same glass company, but once you have it, the glass vase is not only of a different size but the fabrication is also quite different. The decor is found on another company's glass pieces in several cases by Kralik.

      Who were fond of copying a lot of shapes from other makers, just to make life more interesting. (i'm kidding). There are at least 5 instances I can think of where they did exactly that, and that is when they were not copying the glass decor as well. The pink vase is on another of my post in detail, and you can see it much better. I can add more images to illustrate further. Thank you, you did me a service here.
    3. truthordare truthordare, 4 years ago
      https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/250042-a-large-angular-bottle-vase-in-soft-sati?in=user

      the other pink satin vase post.
    4. Wow22, 4 years ago
      Thanks for reply. So - having now read your other post (because the info wasn't restated here) - you are saying the blue is Kralik, the pink and orange are Ruckl? That would really surprise me.
    5. truthordare truthordare, 4 years ago
      Well, it happened, is all I can say, and I am not the only collector of this glass that says so. The Czech glass makers could do some unexpected production of glass pieces, we don't know why, we can only speculate. There is no documentation at all about this.
    6. truthordare truthordare, 4 years ago
      Deleted welzebub's long comment made 8 hours ago, who does not understand HE is not welcome on MY posts. Other people can disagree, when they don't make a habit of it. Who else does that on CW, I can think of only one. :-)
    7. truthordare truthordare, 4 years ago
      Deleted welzebub's latest comment made 7 hours ago, who still does not understand or care if HE is not welcome on MY posts. Always on weekends, if anyone ever noticed this behavior from this member. :-)
    8. Alan2310 Alan2310, 4 years ago
      Hi
      Graig
      I surprised that you keep coming back to this post, when the poster was very clear that they don’t want your comments on it.
      I think you are more cleaver, why did you acting like this.??
      I am just curious of why you doing this, this person is exactly like you, researching some answer, could you believe that if all researchers in the past I’ve not work together we still be at Stone Age.
    9. truthordare truthordare, 4 years ago
      @Alan2310
      I have deleted more comments (5) that were unwelcome and disrespectful to this member right now, due to the constant harassment and pretense of needing explanations and more information, which would then become more excuses to continue to dispute whatever I say in reply. We have been down this road too many times before, they will never learn to live and let live. As you know, since you have been a witness to this many times yourself. I appreciate your words.

      There is no sense to this, except being annoying, yet looking innocent for the CW majority, who do not know the long term 3 year hostile background for this type of approach.

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