Posted 2 years ago
Faith.k
(62 items)
Found at a local 2nd hand store, and thought they were so beautiful, but I can't find any just like them, and I'm unsure of the date of manufacture, so please if anyone can fill in some blanks I'd love to learn more about the style of decorating, and any meaning attached. Thank you in advance!
Are they the same size?
this is the current mark
Fukagawa Iroe Saiji Mark from latter part of 20th Century 179-1981
after that mark came this mark and this is still going on from 1980 till now
you might be confused because Gotheborg is might be IMO mark imperial also an expert assess this as 1920 but they probably revived this mark he got an different glazing and he is an top expert
i stick to the expertLita Xú Líng Kelley and the expert Oliver
source asian art and assessment collection porcelain and pottery
Thank you so much, Apostata, for the excellent and detailed information. I thought they were a mid to later 20th century , does that mean it is not called fukagawa seiji? I think I am addressing it improperly, but will look at the sources you utilize and hopefully get my facts correct. Thank you again.
Dear kwqd, no, one is slightly smaller than the other one, according to what I have been able to find online, they may be a couples gift, weddings and such, and the larger cup is intended for the man, smaller for the lady. I'm not sure, however, so don't quote me, lol!
There is a lot of confusion on the various marks used by the Fukagawa Seiji and Koransha companies over the years. When you check out the various auction sites you will find many fairly modern pieces being sold as Antiques. Some Koransha items are seen advertised as Fukagawa and visa versa. One must know their stuff if they decide to purchase items on these sites. Seiji Kaisha was also an off shoot of the original Koransha company.
I am building a collection of marks with their general time periods. It is a work in progress.
I am thankful for the book "Meiji Arita..." for help with additional marks of the Meiji period.
Both Fukagawa Seiji and Koransha were established by the Fukagawa Family (with others) and they have held the leadership in both companies throughout. Seiji Kaisha is interwoven in the mix as well, having been established by Koransha people (which lasted about twenty years).
The Fukagawa family made ceramics for generations but in 1879 they established Koransha. After the death of the father in 1889,THE SECOND SON BEGAN fukagame FUKAGAME SEJI IN in 1894. Obviously the companies are intertwined
Fukagawa Seiji (Fukagawa Porcelain Company) = the factory
Fukagawa Seiji Lobed Bowl - Ceramic - Marked 'Fukagawa sei' ??? with 'Fuji peak' mark - Japan - 1890-1919
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NO. 24549715 catawiki
Gotheborg has therefore coupled it with son 2 starting on the basis of the glazing and the revival is from 1980
i think formally it still mentioned fukagama sei
see Plate (1) - Porcelain - Butterfly and Flowers - Beautiful High Quality Fukagawa Seiji/Koransha Seiji Plate - Pristine Condition - Japan - Early 20th century
lotnumber NO. 43431629 catawiki
asian art forum bill hewick answer on entry Jan 31, 2017 The website gotheborg.com attributes this mark of "Fukagawa Sei" (??? - "Made by Fukagawa") to the 1900-1920 period, which indeed ensued establishment ESTABLISMENT of Fukagawa Seiji (so the holder or factory ) in 1894
endconclusion we have to asses the glazing if it is an revival piece , and it is an revival piece
Yes a wedding or couples set, called meoto yunomi or "couples cups", often given as wedding gifts, but also to couples.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yunomi
Dear Apostata, thank you for the further details about my pieces and the origins. It was fun and I enjoy learning. As I paid less than ten dollars for the set, I feel good about my purchase, and will happily display them in my china cabinet, but am glad of the warning to watch for others being misrepresented as something older, forewarned is forearmed!
apostata beat me to it - Fukagawa for sure!
or an imitation of Fukagawa...
Ho2cultcha3, thanks for weighing in on my teacups! One of the first asian porcelain/ pottery pieces, I took a deep dive into the company, and ended up being able to shop online out of their shop in Tokyo. They are indeed real, as they are making exactly same set righ now, as Apostata had surmised, they are representing the old style, from post 1988 ish, and sell for about 240.00us. Since I paid less than ten bucks for the set, I'm happy! I see a few similar pieces on ebay, being sold as antiques, but I think they didn't have this forum to assist them, haha. Thank you again!