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Another Loetz discovery; a rare special order, PN II-8463

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Loetz Art Glass1790 of 2222Loetz Olympia, PN II-2829, enameled Loetz Gloria cabinet vase, PN II-1813, ca. 1904
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    Posted 8 years ago

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    Jitka Lnenickova's Loetz, Series II book of paper patterns for Loetz glass between 1900-1914 yielded another pleasant surprise tonight. The piece photographed here is one I have had in my collection for about a year. It has been enigmatic, because by its appearance and feel, you would automatically think it a French piece. Then, there is the name, Richard, etched into the body in a signature familiar to collectors of Loetz cameo glass. I presented this to my glass collecting friends, and we all kind of scratched our heads over it. Most, if not all, of us had never seen a piece signed "Richard" that wasn't cameo. The second photo above was taken before I cleaned the vase - once I cleaned it, the Richard signature almost disappeared (it is still there, but hard to see without dirt filling the inscription).

    Fast forward to tonight - browsing the paper patterns looking for other things when I see the drawing in photo number 3 (PN II-8463). Same shape, same size (200mm, or 20 cm - exactly the height of my vase). The text indicates that the customer's original order was for 20 pieces. It then goes on to list other orders: 20 orangeopal, braun and 20 citrongelb, braun. The order was stamped J. JOUVE/ 21 Rue de Paradis/PARIS.

    I don't know if there were subsequent orders, but is it possible that this is one of only 20 made in this color? Also, what is the relationship of the customer, J. JOUVE, to the RICHARD name? Well, in the back of the book, the author indicates that the firm J. Jouve traded wholesale and retail from its firm in Paris, and also "mediated ...orders and consignments for other customers in France". Also, they were permanent agents in Paris for the Loetz firm from November, 1907 until at least 1937, regularly receiving large consignments of glass from Klášterský Mlýn.

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    1. famatta127 famatta127, 8 years ago
      Wow...a new Genre?...too cool.
    2. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 8 years ago
      It might not be piece, but by case.
    3. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 8 years ago
      Very cool though! :)
    4. bohemianglassandmore bohemianglassandmore, 8 years ago
      Could be in the translation, Alisa, but the book does say the original order was for 20 pieces. Tony, I don't know how else I would classify it. But it doesn't look like it was ever intended to be marketed as "Loetz". I guess it really is a "special order"!
    5. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 8 years ago
      dunno, they are little bud vases.. maybe they were for a special dinner or something. things were different then.. now a special order for twenty of anything would just not be cost effective unless the shape and glass were already being made.. but maybe back then it could be done..
    6. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 8 years ago
      Kinda of makes you want to go thru all your unknowns piece by piece in there doesn't it. :)
    7. bohemianglassandmore bohemianglassandmore, 8 years ago
      Exactly! I wish they would hurry up and do Series I. :)
    8. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 8 years ago
      Is series 1 the early stuff or the late stuff? I am looking forward to the early stuff.. but I'll greedily take whatever they do next :)
    9. bohemianglassandmore bohemianglassandmore, 8 years ago
      The early stuff - right. I have LOTS of holes to fill there.
    10. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 8 years ago
      me too.. I really can't wait for that book. this is fun to be a part of :) really important developments for Loetz.
    11. LoetzDance LoetzDance, 8 years ago
      Great detective work. Isn't it fun when you can solve 100 year old mysteries! The other thing I like is that we now have an example of Loetz "orange opal brown".

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