Posted 2 years ago
vetraio50
(358 items)
I bought this vase late last year here at a market in Surry Hills Sydney, Australia.
It still retains the Beranek label .
It is vase 8829 - manufactured in three sizes - 8829/24, 8829/20 and 8829/15.
The designer is Jaroslav Wasserbauer.
This is one of the larger versions. It is 24 cm high, 8 cm wide.
It is another of the controlled bubble vases that I like.
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Wow ! What a whopper !
The gray canes internal decor is quite mesmerizing.
Just a note: Use of the Skrdlovice name implies communist era production. This is post re-privatization ...about 1993 onwards. Peter
Many thanks to scandinavian_pieces, ozmarty and Glasseyed for the Loves.
Thanks too for your comments vetrissimo!
The vase however is a design from 1988.
The number 8829 is a combo of year and height.
This makes it pre re-privatisation.
I had no idea that the term Skrdlovice implied the communist period.
I'm off to do some research on the point and would welcome any of your thoughts about it.
Thanks scottvez!
My comment was about the date of production, not of design.
Production prior to re-privatization (return of ownership to the Beranek family) would have borne a Skrdlovice or generic Bohemia label.
The measurements are the two digits after the production number and slash as you illustrated with examples.
I didn't know that the first two digits of the production number related to the year of design. Are you sure about that ?
Pete
Hi vetrissimo.
I've had a look again at the design number.
My vase is 8829/24; the 24 is the height.
I was wrong about the 8829. The 88 is the year and the 29 is the 29th design I think.
I had seen a photo in one of the Beranek catalogues.
I contacted Jindrich and he gave me the necessary information:
vase 8829 - manufactured in three sizes - 8829/24, 8829/20 and 8829/15, Jaroslav Wasserbauer.
And then, having contacted Glass Messages Board Rocco & Anik put me onto the catalogues:
My vase is on page 12 of 44 pages at : http://www.vcm.cz/program/exhibitions/glass/pdf/88_91.pdf
In the left hand column there are numbers at the top:8829/24, DNO 8Ø
Which I read as vase 8829 - 1988 number 29 , 24 cm high, 8 cm wide.
And at the left at the bottom are: 880189.
The medium vase has the number: 880190 and the smallest 880191
I asked the folks at GMB what is the significance of this number?
They did not know.
Perhaps you might be able to help?
If you can, have a look at the catalogue page and you'll see that the designs are there on page 12.
The file covers the years 1988 to 1991.
It would appear that at this factory at this time the first two digits of the production number do indeed relate to the year.
The numbers below seem to be merely index numbers. It's my understanding that production numbers and designers names were traditionally kept in a card index. This would appear to be still the case at this time.
Isn't it extraordinary that as late as 1992 (and even later ?) a person was employed to draw the designs onto mock-up catalogues like this ?
During the communist era the relatively small Skrdlovice factory was used as a testing facility for new designs prior to going into full scale production, usually at a different factory. You would have thought that it would have been easier and quicker just to photograph a test piece !!
Perhaps not all designs were made even as test pieces ?
As usual ....more questions than answers ! Sorry
Pete
What I find extraordinary is that the mock-up designs are there for us from the early days too, from 1945 onwards.
It's an amazing resource.
Check out the 1945 - 1948 here:
http://www.vcm.cz/program/exhibitions/glass/pdf/45_49.pdf
Emanuel Beranek has his mark on some of these annotated designs as well.
Many thanks vetrissimo, scottvez, scandinavian_pieces, ozmarty & Glasseyed!
Thanks again BELLIN68!
your very welcome vetraio50:)
Many thanks petey!
Wow! How did I miss this the first time? Beautiful!k
Many thanks Amber! Glad you found it. Thanks again to petey!
Hi V! I defined another slang term in my Dansk paella pan post. I know how you enjoy those : ))
Many thanks miKKo!
Many thanks shell59.