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    Posted 4 years ago

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    This pottery figure I believe is a one off artist's piece, the image is taken from a famous Jacobite 1600s painting by Anthony Van Dyck in the galleria Sabauda Turin (Turin gallery) of Charles I children. In the painting is the three eldest children of Charles, prince of Wales (later King Charles II), Mary (later princess of Orange, and mother of the usurper, and James duke of york, (later King James II and VII) of England. James II of England is the image of the child this pottery figure has been modelled on, I believe this was probably made by an artist due to the research I have done, this is near certainly a one off piece of Royal memorabilia. I have uploaded a picture of the painting so you can compare the image for yourself. Item is unmarked and I believe it to be 19c but I am not really positive on the age it could be early. Please let me know how old you think the item is. I will change the pictures about to show the base later on if you need to see more but let me know. Does anyone have any clue as to what country this was made in, I know it's European but to me it could be anywhere as I have nothing to compare it with. Item has had its head off at some point just like they did in that time, nice clean break though. All other info on this item would be gratefully appreciated, by the way I bought it at an antique fair with a few other bits the dealer told me it was a young Queen Elizabeth. They could not have got that much more wrong being a man and the clothes worn being 300 yrs prior. Any help on age would be grateful definately old but could be really old, let me know what you think.

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    1. lee120275 lee120275, 4 years ago
      Thanks Valentino, blunderbuss & pops. I like this site but when I get on here I never do any work lol.
    2. IVAN49 IVAN49, 4 years ago
      Is there any mark, painted or impressed? That might help.
    3. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
      Certainly an exciting piece !!!!

      I'm reminded of the work of Charles Vyse.

    4. lee120275 lee120275, 4 years ago
      No marks or painted or impressed I will look over it again today and see if I can spot something.
    5. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
      If you could add a pic. of the base it really would help.
    6. IVAN49 IVAN49, 4 years ago
      ``Age cracks`` cannot develop on figurines within short time, several decades are needed for ``age cracks`` to appear on plates and cups with hot liquid served.
      Meaning, it must be old. Just guessing, but more than a century, I would say. Let`s keep searching.
    7. lee120275 lee120275, 4 years ago
      Vetraio I like to dream as well, anyway it does kind of look like there are marks to the base. But as the air hole has cracked under firing the bottom is sunken and hard to read. I will upload the pics later and you can tell me what you think, it's early at the mo in u.k and I am having the British morning tea. We drink it all day to tell you the truth. Thanks again
    8. lee120275 lee120275, 4 years ago
      Ivan thank you for your nice comments I will upload the bottom for you later
      Thank you
    9. kyratango kyratango, 4 years ago
      What a charming, beautiful mystery! It is very interesting to see the picture it was taken from.
    10. rockbat, 4 years ago
      This is a fantastic piece.
    11. Manikin Manikin, 4 years ago
      Wonderful ! I would like to see bottom also :-)
    12. lee120275 lee120275, 4 years ago
      Sorry I did not get back to you about this but I went away due to a family deathand my son took the figure to art pottery specialist, who ended up buying the figure as he loved it as well. It made a very nice sum anyway, he did say it would be very hard to find the maker but he will let me know if he does. Thank you for all your help.

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