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Sterling Silver1575 of 1934English Silver Plate Sugar ScuttleCondiment spoon?
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Posted 4 years ago

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Hunter
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This is an old monogrammed cigarette case I found at a Buffalo Exchange in Texas. Go figure.

From what I've found online, the silver marks indicate it was made by the H.J. Cooper and Co. Ltd., in Birmingham, England (anchor), it is .925 Silver (lion), and it was made in 1907 (h).

I love that it still has one original yellow elastic band to hold the cigarettes - does anyone know why there was a place for elastic on the opposite side as well (the narrow convex side)? Was it to hold matches?

And can anyone make out what letters the actual monogram say (TM?) - I'm having trouble with it. Any info about the eagle design on the back is appreciated too!

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  1. vetraio50 vetraio50, 4 years ago
    a) More cigarettes, I think!
    b) JMC ? Celtic twists?
    c) The family armorial.

    Nice case!
  2. Hunter Hunter, 4 years ago
    thanks vetraio50!
  3. Hunter Hunter, 4 years ago
    thanks all for the love!
  4. Hems303 Hems303, 4 years ago
    Don't you just love the monogram!
  5. Hems303 Hems303, 4 years ago
    Somewhere I have a collection of Silversmiths practice or possibly sample monograms from Birmingham Old Jewellery Quarter...I'll have to dig them out and post them :)
  6. Hunter Hunter, 4 years ago
    thanks Hems - would love to see the sample monograms!
  7. Hems303 Hems303, 4 years ago
    Hi Hunter
    I have posted them and a bit of their story:

    http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/67790-victorian-silver-engravers-work-samples?in=user
  8. Hems303 Hems303, 4 years ago
    The Eagle is a "crest" of a very well-to-do Family, perhaps not "Titled" but VERY old and respected. Presumably an English Midlands Family (based on the item being assayed in Birmingham). A specialist in the old families of England would be able to give the name and "seat" (traditional family home/estate) of the family.
  9. Hunter Hunter, 4 years ago
    Great to know about the eagle - I will have to do a bit more research to see who might be able to identify it....thanks again Hems!
  10. zguy2112 zguy2112, 2 years ago
    LOVE this piece Hunter, nice find!!
  11. Hunter Hunter, 2 years ago
    thanks zach! I've been using it as a bill-fold / money holder, since I don't smoke. :)
  12. SEAN68 SEAN68, 2 years ago
    very beautiful !!! ill have to take a look at mine , to see what is about !!!
  13. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 months ago
    HAPPY NEW YEAR HUNTER !!!!!!
  14. Hunter Hunter, 5 months ago
    Thanks Vetraio! Bonne année to you as well :)
  15. Gillian, 5 months ago
    I don't think it's an eagle. I think it's a Phoenix.
  16. kerry10456 kerry10456, 5 months ago
    I was the first love on this....lol, but no comment, the design is a Griffin, a legendary creature with the body, tail, and back legs of a lion; the head and wings of an eagle; and an eagle's talons as its front feet
  17. kerry10456 kerry10456, 5 months ago
    LOL, the Griffin is also the mascot of Missouri Western College...my home town school :-)
  18. Gillian, 5 months ago
    http://www.clker.com/search/phoenix/1

    http://www.clker.com/search/griffin/1
  19. kerry10456 kerry10456, 5 months ago
    I censed to Ph0enix, lol
  20. kerry10456 kerry10456, 5 months ago
    dang auto spell....concede
  21. Hunter Hunter, 5 months ago
    Thanks for the ideas! I still tend to agree with Hems303 that it could just be a stylized heraldic eagle (called an "eagle displayed"), similar to the one seen on the Polish coat of arms here: http://www.loeser.us/flags/images/poland/coat_of_arms/evolution.gif

    Or the second signet ring here: http://www.familysealrings.com/Heraldic-Eagle-Rings.html

    This other site says it creates engravings based on those from "Fairbairns Book Of Crests Of The Families Of Great Britain And Ireland." http://www.heralhouse.com/JewelyShowDetail.aspx?CatNo=76C779&Example=6K However, the digitized copies of the book don't include any of the image plates :( but I'd love to know what family this is associated with!
  22. kerry10456 kerry10456, 5 months ago
    Yup, Hunter the link to rings shows it ...Hems303 hit on the money, would like to know a little more now, curiosity has the best of me now

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