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    Posted 8 years ago

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    This is a really cool vase/cup...that is a friends of mine. He asked me to post this rare and fine piece that is dated 1594 and has the name of the family and is in great condition being hundreds of years old. He is an avid antiques collector and wants to deplete his acquisitions...and asked me to find out any history on this fantastic Bohemian glass! This measures about 5 inches tall. HELP!

    Warren this maybe up your alley :))

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    1. magdalenagirl magdalenagirl, 8 years ago
      The decoration on this glass looks to be the family crest. 1594 doesn't necessarily mean that the glass was made in 1594, but that the family history dates back to that date. This piece to me seems to be from the 1800s
    2. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 8 years ago
      magdalenagirl, you maybe correct...but the glass is older than 1880's. The glass is paper light
    3. magdalenagirl magdalenagirl, 8 years ago
      They made paper light glass in the 1800's.
    4. Project_Harrach Project_Harrach, 8 years ago
      Probably Heckert or Harrach historium glass from the 1800's, it was a very popular "revival" trend of the 17th century style glass.
    5. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      The name is Christoff von Hünigke, I think.
      These days it may be written differently either (Hünecke) or Hünicke perhaps.
    6. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      does the family have anything to do with Kartzow near Potsdam?
    7. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 8 years ago
      Kevin, the man who owns this just an antique lover..and used to just buy everything he sees. He bought this back in CT area...about 40 years ago.
    8. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      or is it the coat of arms of the von Hünicke and the von Knoblauch families?
      Möthlitzer Schloss?öthlitzer_Schloss
    9. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      The von Hüneckes had property in Jerchel, Möthlitz und Vehlen.

      There is reference to a Christoff von Hünigke here.
      Unfortunately it is just a footnote and in German.
    10. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 8 years ago
      Kevin, XOXO for the information!
    11. bohemianglassandmore bohemianglassandmore, 8 years ago
      I agree with Brian - Historic Revival piece from the 19th century. Pretty cool. :)
    12. Project_Harrach Project_Harrach, 8 years ago
      The more I look at it, I do believe it's a 19th century Historic Revival piece, but not Harrach or Heckert. They'd typically have a polished pontil, but I suspect most of the glass houses were making similar wares, it seemed to be a popular item. It does appear to have some numbering in the snapped pontil scar, perhaps a close-up of that would aid in ID.
    13. glasfreund glasfreund, 8 years ago
      The mark is hard to read. It could be F.H. 420/1 and a decor number. "F.H." stands for Fritz Heckert, "420/1" refers to the shape and the last number (J??) to the decor. It was made around 1890. As mentioned copies of renaissance glasses have been popular that time. These are not to be considered as fakes. Heckert (and others) made a lot of these. A large series of beakers, humpen (tankards) etc. are decorated with coat of arms. There is a German term for this type of glasses: "Altdeutsch" (old German).
    14. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      Check out the term "Wappenhumpen".
      Put it with Heckert and you will see similar examples.

      Another term in German "Wappengläsern" - Armorial Glass.

    15. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 8 years ago
      Brian, if you search ebay for heckert and tumbler there is at least one like this with a rough pontil and signed (And this one does look like it's probably signed by heckert I think I can see it.) We know Heckert sourced from Josephinenhuette as well as Harrach. I also have seen JH glass with rough pontils with otherwise quite nice glass... So my money is on Heckert decorated JH blank
    16. Project_Harrach Project_Harrach, 8 years ago
      I can't see the writing on the base, but yeah I have seen FH with unpolished pontils.
    17. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 8 years ago
      did you enlarge the pic of the base? if you do you can see the writing pretty well. I cropped it in picasa and Pretty sure you can make out an F.. not sure about the H.
    18. SEAN68 SEAN68, 8 years ago
      I have a book on glass from the 1500s ,I'll see what I can find out:)
    19. Historismus Historismus, 8 years ago
      This is a 'Wappenbecher', or beaker with armorial bearing, and was produced by Fritz Heckert Kunstglas Industrie in Petersdorf, Silesia. This beaker is a part of their Historismus Glas (historical revival) series, or 'im altdeutschen Stil' (in the old German style). This beaker was undoubtedly designed by Oskar Jummel and can sometimes be found marked with the catalog number 'FH 420/1 J.27' in white or black enamel. Hold a light over the opening off the beaker and carefully look at the base as the white enamel markings can be difficult to see.. The marking is often within the pontil break. 'FH' is the producer, Fritz Heckert. '420' is the vessel form. '/1' is the series using that glass form. 'J' signifies the artwork designer, Oskar Jummel (a brother-in-law to Fritz Heckert), and was employed there from the early to mid-1870's to after 1890. '27' is the decoration number within the series. I have many different pieces within this and other series within my vast Heckert collection.

      Although I don't generally provide valuations, I can tell you that these beakers currently bring 50%, and lately far less (and up to 83%$ less!), of what they were realizing before 2008, thanks to the banking fraud that lead to housing market crash of '08.

      Incidentally and for those that don't know, Fritz Heckert passed away in 1887. In 1923 the company merge with Josephinenhütte and Neuman & Staebe to become Josephinenhütte AG JO-HE-KY, and existed under this name until 1945. Josehinenhütte closed in 1992.

      Historismus glass, especially that produced by Heckert during this period, were very faithful reproductions of original pieces produced during the Renaissance and later, so much so that museum curators and collectors couldn't tell the difference between the originals and the reproductions. Many of the originals were lent to Heckert by the Berlin Art Museum. So, anyone's theory about this piece being produced during the year marked, is fundamentally flawed, as this would be extremely difficult to prove.

      Wish to know more about This particular armorial bearing (coat-of-arms is a misnomer!), enameled glass of the Renaissance, post-Renaissance glass, Historismus glass, or Fritz Heckert glass? Just ask me, a 30+ year collector.


    20. Historismus Historismus, 8 years ago

      You are undoubtedly referring to the book, 'Ars vitraria experimentalis', the first book published on glassmaking (originally published in Latin, later translated into German), which I also posses. This book is concerned with the art of making glass (i.e. the glassmaking trade), and isn't concerned with any specific producers of glass. You may have better luck looking at books like 'Die Kunst auf Glas zu malen und Glasarbeiten' by Peter le Bieil, 1780; Geschichte der Glasmalerei in Deutschland und den Niederlanden, Frankreich, England, der Schweiz, Italien, und Spanien von ihrem Ursprung bis auf die neueste Zeit', by M.A. Gessert, 1839. However, these tomes, and references like these have more to do with the technology and technique of enameling on glass, and less to do with the wares produced by any given glass producer.

      There are many books on Bohemian (encompassing parts of Germany/Czechoslovakia/Austria) , German and Austrian enameled glass (this art form, which incidentally came to central Europe from Venice during the 15th century), from the Renaissance to the Historismus period, including a couple of books dedicated specifically to Heckert glass (which picture many such glass objects), which are evident in my vast library on drinking vessels.
    21. SEAN68 SEAN68, 8 years ago
      Many Thanks Historismus for the information :)

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