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Bohemian Art Glass4434 of 6610Kralik Pink Green Vaseline Floriform Vase Riedel Enameled Aventurine Vase, ca. 1900
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    Posted 8 years ago

    colori
    (47 items)

    It's one of uncommon decor.

    I bought it last year, but I didn't find any clear documentation of an attribution on this particular decor. I call it simply "thistle", this is how it looks

    Any suggestions are welcome.

    H: 4" or 10 cm

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    Comments

    1. colori colori, 8 years ago
      Thanks for the info Alfredo.
    2. Michelleb007 Michelleb007, 8 years ago
      Wow - very beautiful and so different!
    3. colori colori, 8 years ago
      Thanks Michelle!
    4. SEAN68 SEAN68, 8 years ago
      STUNNING !!!
    5. colori colori, 8 years ago
      Many Thanks Sean !
    6. colori colori, 8 years ago
      Many Thanks to all !
    7. TallCakes TallCakes, 1 year ago
      found one with same thistle design signed Loetz
      https://www.swspiritantiques.com/products/signed-loetz-austria-art-nouveau-iridescent-vase
    8. Michelleb007 Michelleb007, 1 year ago
      Yes, but it is not an authentic signature. These are often faked. If you go to the Loetz.com website, they have a section on true Loetz signatures vs. fakes.
    9. inky inky, 1 year ago
      Beautiful!..looks like a thistle to me too..
    10. TallCakes TallCakes, 1 year ago
      did check the Loetz site; the images aren't that great for comparison. just siting the similarities and letting the experts opine...
    11. larksel larksel, 1 year ago
      I would almost bet on Rindskopf. Now it's something similar on ebay, but unfortunately it doesn't send outside the US.
    12. Michelleb007 Michelleb007, 1 year ago
      I believe these have been associated with Germany in the past, rather than Bohemia, although no maker in particular has been identified.
    13. larksel larksel, 1 year ago
      I know, but I'd still bet on Rindskopf after 1910. But who knows, I might lose.
    14. Michelleb007 Michelleb007, 1 year ago
      I'd love to know! :) I have examples in other shapes if you would like to see them - let me know!
    15. TallCakes TallCakes, 1 year ago
      I've seen several examples of different shapes with various potential attributions. You might contact SWAntiques about their signed piece and ask why they seem convinced it to be Loetz...
    16. Michelleb007 Michelleb007, 1 year ago
      Really, it isn't Loetz. I have been collecting Loetz for almost 20 years (or more now?) and it has very few similarities to Loetz glass, and as I said, the signature is a fake.
    17. TallCakes TallCakes, 1 year ago
      perhaps someone should set them straight on that misattribution...
    18. welzebub, 1 year ago
      There is a version of this decor found on a satin finish cased green vase with a white interior lining. The embossed decor is the same as this example, and the vase is found with a "Germany" provenance mark on the underside. Based on this unique decor being found with that German provenance mark, it has been believed for quit some time that this is German production, and not Bohemian or Czech.

      To me at least, that mark alone, would almost certainly disqualify Rindskopf as the source of the glass.
    19. larksel larksel, 1 year ago
      Craig, could you please send me pictures of that vase marked Germany.
    20. welzebub, 1 year ago
      I looked last night for a bit last night but could not find my copies. Here is an example of the same vase without the mark. I will look some more today for it. It is clearly marked with Germany.

      https://d3h6k4kfl8m9p0.cloudfront.net/stories/Pg922IgdHANmkmEm9fKJ2Q.jpeg

      https://d3h6k4kfl8m9p0.cloudfront.net/stories/OTdlFNur6WYi1BRQkq4k6w.jpeg
    21. welzebub, 1 year ago
      Here is the mark which has been seen on a handful of examples of this decor in varying grounds, to include cased examples like the links above.

      http://www.kralik-glass.com/CW/GGV4.jpg
    22. welzebub, 1 year ago
      Here are some other examples as mentioned by Michelle.

      http://www.kralik-glass.com/CW/GGV3.jpg
    23. larksel larksel, 1 year ago
      Thanks. The decor is certainly very similar, but the only example of one layer of glass. Does it lead me to Rindskopf's carnival glass ?? But I don't insist on Rindskopf. I'm just looking for clues to what Rindskopf could have produced from 1910 to the late 1930s. It is clear from period advertisements that it was not only pressed utility glass.
    24. larksel larksel, 1 year ago
      This is something else, but there is a certain resemblance. I have it listet as Kralik, but ...? https://www.bohemianglass.org/katalog/vaza-pflanzen-optisch-4814/detail/
    25. welzebub, 1 year ago
      You are welcome. In 15 years of research of varying European glass, I have only seen maybe a dozen vases in this decor. I have seen 3 in the same ground as Colori's example in this post. Two of them were torpedo shaped, and sat in mounts.

      I have always been of the opinion that when so few examples of a decor are seen over long periods of time, it seems to narrow the possible production house to a single source, and not multiples. That is certainly just an observation of mine through the years.
    26. SethPremo, 1 year ago
      What's worse is that Heritage had this piece (in good condition) at one of its auctions, except it was undamaged. What you notice is that someone actually ground the bottom point of the glass in order to make a "pontil" to forge a signature on. Talk about sacrilege & shady...
      https://flic.kr/p/2muRMtk

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