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    Posted 3 years ago

    Ivonne
    (167 items)

    My first thought was Welz The clear glass handles ornamented like the handles of Welz's trophy vases and oxblood colour seemed to point directly to Welz Also Sklo posted some time ago a pair of heart vases in the same decor and the ground colour .However,she also noticed that in some point (rigaree) her vases were atypical.Then I came across a discussion in the Internet about the same vase .It was from CW from 7 years before and there was said it was Ruckl ,because it had a Ruckl sticker.I put the link to the discussion below.
    I'd love to know your opinions about this id.

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    1. Ivonne Ivonne, 3 years ago
      https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/23600-cased-glass-spatter-ruckl-art-glass-trop
    2. Alan2310 Alan2310, 3 years ago
      Hello Yvonne, hope you doing well friend.
      My 2 cent will be Welz also......
    3. welzebub, 3 years ago
      This is Welz production, as is the one in the link. This shape is found in at least a couple of other decors which can be linked several ways to Welz, and not Ruckl.

      The one in the link does not have a Ruckl sticker on it. It was said to be by Ruckl because the decor is similar to a vase with a Ruckl sticker, which is a completely different form.
    4. Ivonne Ivonne, 3 years ago
      Hi,Alan .Nice to hear from you:)Thanks for your opinion.I also lean towards Welz.
    5. Ivonne Ivonne, 3 years ago
      So I misunderstood the discussion.Thank you ,Craig for the explanation.Your opinion is always most important for me.
    6. welzebub, 3 years ago
      My pleasure... Great vase... The shape is not all that common.
    7. scottvez scottvez, 3 years ago
      I'd go with welz as well.

      There were a lot of ruckl identifications posted on here several years ago. There was no supportable evidence to the attributions. Others then based identifications on the initial attributions and the "snow ball" began...

      scott
    8. jscott0363 jscott0363, 3 years ago
      It's simply and outstanding piece!
    9. charcoal charcoal, 3 years ago
      This decor is an exact match to the vase shape labeled Ruckl. I currently own both shapes and can confirm for you that the decors, the glass layering, and the rim finishing treatments are each an exact match.
    10. welzebub, 3 years ago
      Fortunately this shape is also seen in other decors whose origins can be solidly linked to Welz,

      Just about every claim of Rückl attribution you have ever made in CW, regarding this style and period of glass, has stemmed from that single piece with a label.

      Sorry Charlie, but it appears that your "opinion" may carry little to no weight. There is a vast body of quite supportable work which severely impugns your credibility on the subject.
    11. MALKEY MALKEY, 3 years ago
      tastie smoothe and very unusual to me splendiferous ivonne xxxxxxxx
      lots of love malkey
      well back to hospital soon ish to the wonderburg nurses patients doctors pharmacist psychologist & paul special nurse ect lady receptionist ladys me psychiatric nurse hey dude support person chiropodist ott jim
    12. Ivonne Ivonne, 3 years ago
      Thanks,scott for your input.I had a similar feeling about posts from several years before.We are still completing our knowledge about Bohemian glass and have more samples which help with .
    13. charcoal charcoal, 3 years ago
      Yes, this vase shape and the vase shape labeled Ruckl are each found in the same red lined oxblood and white spatter décor shown above as well as other decors. Each of those decors, the vase shape above, and the vase shape labeled Ruckl can be solidly linked to Welz, but only when the documentation that doesn't result in a Welz attribution is ignored or manipulated.

    14. Ivonne Ivonne, 3 years ago
      Charlie,thank you for the comment.I appreciate your attentive words and the insights
    15. Ivonne Ivonne, 3 years ago
      Thank you,MALKEY,for your enthusiastic words.I really appreciate it.
      Malkey,there are a lot of people in the hospital you meet.You must be a figure there;)
      Forgive my light tone but I'd love to see a smile on your face and many beautiful photos here.A big hug for you,mateXXX
    16. Ivonne Ivonne, 3 years ago
      Thank you all for the loves and the informative comments .They helped me to make a decision about id.
    17. Ivonne Ivonne, 3 years ago
      jscotto,I'm glad you like it.The colours are beautiful and it looks as if it was made yesterday.
    18. welzebub, 3 years ago
      "Each of those decors, the vase shape above, and the vase shape labeled Ruckl can be solidly linked to Welz, but only when the documentation that doesn't result in a Welz attribution is ignored or manipulated."

      The Rückl "documentation" of which you speak..... The stuff that has to be ignored to arrive at a Welz attribution.......... Surely it must be more than a singular label on the bottom of a single vase, because beyond that you have never produced anything whatsoever??
    19. kivatinitz kivatinitz, 2 years ago
      what a nice vase. Ivonne your collection is greater in all senses everyday

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