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    Posted 8 years ago

    vetraio50
    (717 items)

    For my 300th item I thought I'd switch to something different from Down Under. It is a pen and wash drawing of a Native American. It was bought a few years back at the Saturday market in Rozelle, Sydney. I have not been able to track down the signature. I'm hoping that someone on CW will help me with this.

    I hope I've used the right terminology here: Native American?
    I'm also after advice as to whether this is an image of a First Nations man, a Canadian Aboriginal man or an indigenous person of the Americas.

    It has been drawn freely with a pen. It looks as if the outline is a continuous stroke moving from one point around the sheet of quality textured paper. The brown wash has been highlighted with some white stokes of the brush and there are faint hints of green (?).

    Any hints as to the identity of the subject or the artist would be appreciated.

    Dimensions:
    Wide 22.5 cm or 8.85 inches
    Length: 30 cm or 11.8 inches.

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    1. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      Many thanks musikchoo!
    2. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      Many thanks kerry10456!
    3. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      Many thanks bratjdd!
    4. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      Many thanks to Phil and Micmac!
      You reckon Asian Sean, hmmm ....
    5. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      I understand Sean. No problem.
    6. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      Many thanks dickweedrules!
    7. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      Many thanks musikchoo!
    8. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      Many thanks walksoftly!
    9. kulektor, 8 years ago
      vetraio50, when I first took a look at this piece I was thinking aboriginal, but really not sure. Concerning signature is it Weiland?
    10. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      Many thanks kulektor! I'll have a look around.
    11. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 8 years ago
      i just saw this now - very beautiful quality of line and use of color and space. very proficient hand and interesting portrait - not 'pretty' or patronizing. beautiful!
    12. ho2cultcha ho2cultcha, 8 years ago
      i have no idea who 'Weiland' is. have you had any luck?
    13. vetraio50 vetraio50, 8 years ago
      None so far, mate! Thanks for your kind comments!
    14. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Many thanks MANIKIN!
    15. vetraio50 vetraio50, 7 years ago
      Many thanks for the loves TOM31675!
    16. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks AGHCOLLECT!!!!
    17. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 6 years ago
      Ohhh, intriguing drawing! He has the feel of Alaska to me. Have you found out anything about him? I see that this was posted awhile back...
    18. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks SHAREURPASSION!!!

      Need more input. Still unknown!
    19. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 6 years ago
      I believe this signature to be Wieland. It's been a usual thing for me to see things differently than others, so I'm used to that. In fact, I just saw a bowl? that looked like the shape of a Mickey Mouse head way before his time, what can I say?! Needless to say, I chose not to comment on that :)

      Anyway, I really like this...To me the hair is frozen which I feel is verified by the mouth. I'm going to see if I can find out anything here.
    20. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Hey, thanks for you input!
      Now I can see Wieland too.
    21. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 6 years ago
      Hi there vetraio, I wonder if this drawing is handy and if you could take a closer photo of the signature for me. I took a pic of it with my camera to see if I could maybe make it larger or even more clear but it didn't really come out good and it's much easier for me if I have it in my hand as I'm searching. (I'll print it out for myself). I looked for hours last night and you wouldn't believe how many different names I came up with from just this one signature. Wieland is a true name, unlike Weiland. So far, no Wieland with this type of medium. In fact, that's more the reason it would help with a better photo of the sig. I'm leaning towards a couple other names I think it may be. If you look at it yourself and study the lines, which I'm sure you have done (it doesn't hurt to do it again after it's been a while anyway) but follow the lines and it seems to me some by his/her signature may just be part of the drawing.

      Last but not least, I did come upon something saying that there was a student project with the Inuites (sp?) And at that time I was so tired, somehow I must have clicked everything off my computer in a snap! So I don;t even know where I was at this point lol!

      Once again, I wish there was a law against the way the artists sign. Oh, and I did read that the way they sign is also a way for them to really rake in more $$$ being that people miss some of their work and one day it appears because they have changed the way they sign and it becomes a one of a kind!

      I keep looking at the sig and the last letter may just be a P or Y...or YO frustrating but still love this drawing and now I really want to know! :) Thanks Vet
    22. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 6 years ago
      Ok, I just found out that Weiland & Wieland ARE both legitimate last names. Just wanted to make that note to clarify.
    23. fairygrandma1 fairygrandma1, 6 years ago
      G'day from a fellow Aussie,
      That signature is definitely WEILAND, I am a genealogist and have read gazillions of old wills so I am used to deciphering weird handwriting.
      Good luck in hunting down the artist and place of origin.
      fairygrandma1
    24. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 6 years ago
      AH! I was so happy to see that you were giving input here! I thought for sure you had an answer for our friend vetraio!

      So far I have found...nothing! I am so looking in the wrong places. As for this day, I am done :) Maybe try again tomorrow. G=nite!
    25. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Sorry I took my eyes off the post. Many thanks for your efforts, SHAREURPASSION! I will get it out tomorrow and take another pic. Thanks to you too FAIRYGRANDMA 'n PEASEJEAN!!!!
    26. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      This is the latest version of the photos! New signature photo!
    27. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 6 years ago
      I do see the "E" more clearly now but I still can't find this artist. Didn't mean to get your hopes up for a let down! :( I tried...
    28. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      I have to thank you so much for your efforts SHARURPASSION!!!
    29. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 6 years ago
      Hi Vet! I don't know what you might think about this, but I have to say, when I saw this I immediately thought of your drawing! Google this: The Tundra Book A Tale of Vukvukai

      Tell me what you think :)

      And I have to say, I scrolled thru your posts to find this one and you have so many amazing, high quality pieces of glass, pottery too. Very impressive :)
    30. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks PEASEJEAN & SHARE UR PASSION !!!!!!!
      I'll have a look into it. Thanks!
    31. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      I see what you mean SHARE UR PASSION !!!!!!!
      Thanks! Tundra peoples. I still think he is not that far north, but definitely an indigenous person of the Americas. I'm stubborn!
    32. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 6 years ago
      lol! Well, at least you know he made an impression on me and so have you :)
    33. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanks ROYCROFTBOOKSFROMME !!!!!!
    34. vetraio50 vetraio50, 6 years ago
      Many thanksVIRGINIA V !!!!!
    35. vetraio50 vetraio50, 5 years ago
      Many thanks REBECCA & MELANIEJ !!!!!

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