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Bohemian Art Glass896 of 5598Welz Melon Ribbed Vase – A New Décor on a Distinctive ShapeJIRI SUHAJEK - CZECH
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    Posted 2 years ago

    IronLace
    (413 items)

    This Victorian vase is made from three layers of cased glass - clear over brown Peloton threads, with a white interior. It measures 15.5 cm tall, 11 cm across the crimped top rim, & 7.7 cm across the base, which has a polished out pontil mark. The vase also has two clear, applied handles, which have a lumpy texture (not quite thorny).
    This was today's flea market find, & would have to rank up there with my all time best buys. Peloton glass in itself is rare enough, but this type with brown threads is even more so - I have never encountered a piece for sale, & only knew of it from a photo in an old reference book. So, you can imagine my delight when I spotted it...& yes, it was a very modest price, too. :-)
    I think most likely Bohemian origin.

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    1. welzebub welzebub, 2 years ago
      Great piece in an extremely unusual décor.

      The link below will show your piece next to an example of a brown Peleton décor with a very distinct rim crimp I refer to as "snowflake". I have linked the rim crimp to quite a few Welz examples, most particularly a tri-ball footed example, with that style of foot being a specific marker for Welz production.

      Although there are some similar crimps seen to the snowflake crimp, it is a distinctive crimp, which at this point is strongly linked to several examples of Welz production. I am not prepared to refer to it as a Welz marker, but it is certainly unusual and found on their production.

      The brown Peleton examples are likely by one house, as they are extremely uncommon. Your is the second example I have actually seen. I am not familiar with the book reference you referred to.

      http://www.kralik-glass.com/images/BrownPeleton.jpg

      At a minimum, it is an interesting comparison of the two examples side by side.
    2. welzebub welzebub, 2 years ago
      Here is a link to the most compelling example linking the Snowflake crimp to Welz production.

      http://www.kralik-glass.com/images/SnowflakeTriBall.jpg
    3. IronLace IronLace, 2 years ago
      Thanks so much for the info - I really appreciate it! I will have a look through the book tomorrow when I get home - it is a small, spiral - bound, independently published book from the late 1960s (American)...one of three I have from a series that covers mostly Victorian, & some later, art glass. They are more like picture books of people's collections than scholarly tomes...but rather interesting as they illustrate many fine examples of Victorian glass, many items quite rare & unusual. The item pictured is a rose bowl if I recall correctly.
      Funnily enough, I did think there was something about the "lumpy" applied handles
      which reminded me of the applied feet on my Welz yellow frit vase that I posted a few months back...I realise that things like applied handles, feet, etc. are not really valid for basing positive IDs on, as similar styles were used by many makers. Nevertheless, it could mean another point of similarity to know Welz items.
    4. welzebub welzebub, 2 years ago
      I also noticed the similarity of the handles....

      I have been going through a huge directory full of images I have gathered, covering many years of research. I am sorting them for some shapes and decors to add to my website. I came across this one I saved a few years back, and one that I had forgotten about.

      Although I am certainly not going to say that Welz is the only house that made these, they did make quite a few different styles of them that can be specifically identified as theirs based on known décors...... So although this image provides nothing really definitive about the source of this unusual decor, it does suggest another mild pointer.

      http://www.kralik-glass.com/images/PeletonDouble.jpg
    5. MALKEY MALKEY, 2 years ago
      super peleton decor IronLace first class !!!!
    6. LOUMANAL LOUMANAL, 2 years ago
      Beautiful...looks like a spore forming bacteria under Microscope from my Microbiology days.....lol
    7. IronLace IronLace, 2 years ago
      Many thanks, MALKEY & LOUMANAL for your comments!
    8. IronLace IronLace, 2 years ago
      Thanks again, welzebub for the link, most timely & appropriate as I have just found the book illustration I was referring to - & it pictures a triple version of these conjoined rose bowls (I have seen them called "Siamese rose bowls"). Also, another example of autumnal - hued Peloton is on the same page - looks a little more red & brown - a melon ribbed vase. The reference book is " A Color Picture Book To Over 100 Types Of Collectible Glass - Book 2", by Ted & Vi Lagerberg, Modern Photographers, New Port Richey, Florida, published 1966. As mentioned, there's not much information in these little books (I also have Book 1, & one on British glass, which features some of Cyril Manley's collection - before he wrote "Decorative Victorian Glass") but the pictures are good for their time, & show many interesting & desirable items.
    9. welzebub welzebub, 2 years ago
      I am curious as to the shape of the ones in the triple. Are they like the one I posted a link to in the Peleton decor, or are they a different shape? I have confirmed Welz production of some triples, but in a different shape.
      Thanks....
    10. IronLace IronLace, 2 years ago
      They look the same - I can email you a photo of the page if you're interested. Some other examples of Peloton, as well as other spatter glass is pictured on the same page.
    11. welzebub welzebub, 2 years ago
      I would be interested in seeing it. I have some old 1960's publications which are laden with mistakes. In many cases early Bohemian production is labeled as American glass.

      There is a contact link on my website.... Thanks
    12. Michelleb007 Michelleb007, 2 years ago
      I really like this one, IronLace. The decor is really interesting and looks beautiful on this shape. I think the handles are great, too!

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