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    Posted 4 years ago

    shareurpas…
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    ~~~Another Update~~~ Please see comment 17 by me.

    ***UPDATE***
    Yes, we have all been right about the fact of the "unstamped" pieces! They were made for family. As far as the scratched in initials, it is usually the actual maker that does this. More than that instead of initials, they would use a tribal symbol instead. Anyway, he continued to tell me about the color of stones style of pieces etc that are the id as well of the tribe that has created the piece. We know this also. I have to tell you I have known this man since I was in grade school, he's a couple years older than me and always seemed to be miles taller than me. I remember standing near him and looking straight up and I was always so impressed by him and back then, around high school age his hair was very long, black shiny and gorgeous. He is Apache and has some amazing family history that I will write a post about for you all hopefully soon. I'll get some photos too, that will be fun. Even to this day, standing next to him is like standing next to a Redwood tree! He's over 6ft tall and the oldest child of I think it's 13 kids in the family. I hope you don't mind that I added all that to this post. After all, we only wanted one answer! So again...it usually was the maker of the piece.

    I first have to wish all a very Happy New Year! I hope we can all find that one thing we all seek out and if not, I'm happy already to be here to continue to share and learn from the best people around!!! Thank you to everyone for your help and kindness. You all hold a special place in my heart and so many times I'm out there on the hunt, I see something that makes me wish one or the other of you were with me so I could make up my mind on a piece or two!

    Here's the bracelet I mentioned to Ms Valentino97. Looking at it, they aren't as similar as I was thinking but they are both turquoise ;)

    I do love the color of this one, with the blue of the turquoise the colors are black and brown too. I'm not sure which mine it's from, haven't even checked. I questioned it's origin because it's not stamped on the back and also the traditional Native American symbols are not present, therefore, I thought maybe Mexican...But then there are the traditional feathers on the side.

    I know the N.A. silversmiths learned the craft from the Mexicans but I still lean towards this being Native American. I also know that many years ago, when someone crafted a nice piece for a family member for another, they never signed or stamped it. Also, many years ago the term "old Pawn" came into play because if the family needed money, they would "Pawn" one or more of their treasures for money and more often than not, they were unable to buy back these heirlooms and I think that term is used without the true knowledge of it's origin.

    If you can see in the 3rd photo, someone has used an engraving tool, not one of the old ones that makes dots but if you can see it, the had a tough time "scratching' the initials JR in there...I just thought of a friend of mine that is an authentic tribal member that I will ask about this, he may know if it was possibly the new owner or the maker. I think the new owner, but I'll see what he says.

    And for the last photo, my swan was minding her own business, taking a little swim in a huge puddle from the rain and out of nowhere...here comes Caperkids damn shark!!! Broke the swans neck in a hot second!!! HAHA HA...Just a little left over eggnog folks! Just kidding ;) Guess there's no helping the swan at this point, right?

    Much love!!!
    Sue

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    Comments

    1. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 4 years ago
      Thanks SpiritBear
    2. Caperkid, 4 years ago
      Sue I want some of your eggnog lol. Swan vs shark hmm shark gotta win 9 out of 10 lol btw great bracelet
    3. valentino97 valentino97, 4 years ago
      Happy New Year - toasting you with eggnog too!! and sorry about your swan that got in the way of the shark. Liked the rain though this past week.

      I think you have a VERY lovely Navajo bracelet - not Mexican. Love the feathers and work around the turquoise. You're right, they didn't sign them. I have a few pieces that have the scratched names too. Please ask your friend what that might mean. I love this cuff, Happy New Year!!
    4. racer4four racer4four, 4 years ago
      Ooh very nice! I love the style of this and the turquoise is a lovely colour.

      Poor Swanny! (Japanese too! sob)
    5. Efesgirl Efesgirl, 4 years ago
      That's a beautiful bracelet.
      The only JR I found was Jerry Roan, but he used a stamp to sign his pieces. I am also interested in hearing what your friend says about it.
    6. jscott0363 jscott0363, 4 years ago
      Nice one Sue!! Happy New Year to you as well!
      Scott
    7. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 4 years ago
      Hey Caper! Thought you might like that! No prob in sharing...that's what it's all about and I will find number 10!!! haha (I do know what #10 is and won't say but I will find it and do the surprise attack) haha thanks and have a great day!
    8. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 4 years ago
      Hi ya Mary. I had gone looking for a painting for the wall, found two metal pieces instead and while putting them up of all things a screw fell and tink! Right in the wrong place. That's all that took. I'm so thankful that I don't grow attached to things like I used to. I suppose if it were something like a Kralik piece...well, you know.

      Thanks for the compliment on the bracelet. I'll be talking to my friend in about an hour and will come back to update this question once and for all ;) I know he knows for sure. He and I had a conversation a long time ago and these are the pieces he is always interested in. The unstamped but I never thought to ask him about the 'scratched' in initials. We will know very soon!
    9. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 4 years ago
      Thank you Karen! Now I have a single one so I'll have to find some others to match but different colors like yours. Remember, I had two of these...
    10. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 4 years ago
      Thanks Bonnie, I'm thinking that maybe even the receiver of the gift may have even scratched the givers initials in it. We'll know in about an hour!
    11. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 4 years ago
      Thanks Mr J. Great to see you!
    12. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 4 years ago
      Thanks Cindy! I really do prefer this color of turquoise on me. It works better with my skin tone but I love all the different shades. Keep in touch!
    13. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 4 years ago
      Many thanks to all those that stopped by:

      ho2, mike, kyra, martika & freiheit...always appreciated!!!
    14. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 4 years ago
      Thank you for the love vet,Lou & vintage lamp! Much appricated!!!
    15. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 4 years ago
      Thank you Rose. I appreciate it.
    16. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 4 years ago
      I'm having second thoughts on the response from my friend! I simply can't see the maker "scratching" his or her name in the piece...Personally IMHO I think it's the new owner that does this. I have an idea that I'm going to try to find out from a few different dealers. This way we will have the option to see if 3 out of 4 say the same thing! I will for sure get back to you all with this info I collect but it may take time.
    17. Rick55 Rick55, 4 years ago
      Love the story and love the stone Share!
    18. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 4 years ago
      Beautiful bracelet. Poor little swanny! :(
    19. katherinescollections katherinescollections, 4 years ago
      Initial scratching. I would say the owner did this, not the maker.

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