Posted 4 years ago
~~~Another Update~~~ Please see comment 17 by me.
Yes, we have all been right about the fact of the "unstamped" pieces! They were made for family. As far as the scratched in initials, it is usually the actual maker that does this. More than that instead of initials, they would use a tribal symbol instead. Anyway, he continued to tell me about the color of stones style of pieces etc that are the id as well of the tribe that has created the piece. We know this also. I have to tell you I have known this man since I was in grade school, he's a couple years older than me and always seemed to be miles taller than me. I remember standing near him and looking straight up and I was always so impressed by him and back then, around high school age his hair was very long, black shiny and gorgeous. He is Apache and has some amazing family history that I will write a post about for you all hopefully soon. I'll get some photos too, that will be fun. Even to this day, standing next to him is like standing next to a Redwood tree! He's over 6ft tall and the oldest child of I think it's 13 kids in the family. I hope you don't mind that I added all that to this post. After all, we only wanted one answer! So again...it usually was the maker of the piece.
I first have to wish all a very Happy New Year! I hope we can all find that one thing we all seek out and if not, I'm happy already to be here to continue to share and learn from the best people around!!! Thank you to everyone for your help and kindness. You all hold a special place in my heart and so many times I'm out there on the hunt, I see something that makes me wish one or the other of you were with me so I could make up my mind on a piece or two!
Here's the bracelet I mentioned to Ms Valentino97. Looking at it, they aren't as similar as I was thinking but they are both turquoise ;)
I do love the color of this one, with the blue of the turquoise the colors are black and brown too. I'm not sure which mine it's from, haven't even checked. I questioned it's origin because it's not stamped on the back and also the traditional Native American symbols are not present, therefore, I thought maybe Mexican...But then there are the traditional feathers on the side.
I know the N.A. silversmiths learned the craft from the Mexicans but I still lean towards this being Native American. I also know that many years ago, when someone crafted a nice piece for a family member for another, they never signed or stamped it. Also, many years ago the term "old Pawn" came into play because if the family needed money, they would "Pawn" one or more of their treasures for money and more often than not, they were unable to buy back these heirlooms and I think that term is used without the true knowledge of it's origin.
If you can see in the 3rd photo, someone has used an engraving tool, not one of the old ones that makes dots but if you can see it, the had a tough time "scratching' the initials JR in there...I just thought of a friend of mine that is an authentic tribal member that I will ask about this, he may know if it was possibly the new owner or the maker. I think the new owner, but I'll see what he says.
And for the last photo, my swan was minding her own business, taking a little swim in a huge puddle from the rain and out of nowhere...here comes Caperkids damn shark!!! Broke the swans neck in a hot second!!! HAHA HA...Just a little left over eggnog folks! Just kidding ;) Guess there's no helping the swan at this point, right?