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    Posted 6 years ago

    Moonstonel…
    (765 items)

    This is the same vase that I just posted a couple of days ago...the original pictures were of the listing. In the description it never mentioned a purple or lavender iridescent over the acid etching. It was a buy it now...and on a hunch without looking...got it. Sorry for bad pictures..but tried to show the lavender purple but it turned out bluish.... This measures 5.5 tall...and solid(heavy)
    BTW the last picture was of the listing....you could not tell...or maybe you could and I am colour blind :0
    The first picture is with white light...and the last is with black light!
    UPDATE:
    http://www.manddmoir.co.uk/phdi/p1.nsf/supppages/moir?opendocument&part=6

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    1. DrFluffy DrFluffy, 6 years ago
      I love these colors... I basically also live in these colors too :)
    2. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      DrFluffy, so do I ...and I was shocked to see that the seller did not disclose this in the listing....what a selling point! XO I lucked out!!!
    3. DrFluffy DrFluffy, 6 years ago
      Well you definitely got a gorgeous one!!
    4. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      DrFluffy, I feel very lucky!!
    5. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      czechman, What is this type of vase called? Thanks for loving!!
    6. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      vetraio50, thank for loving!!!
    7. cogito cogito, 6 years ago
      I don't want to rain on your parade, Moonstone, but this might not be Loetz. I'm not certain, but the glass looks like uranium. Also, the lack of a pontil on a phanomen type is not common. I would recommend asking famatta or one of the other Loetz pros here about it. It's still fabulously beautiful, though!
    8. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 6 years ago
      With Cogito on this one. a similar decor is shown in the Heckert section at PMC. (yeah, I know that's controversial) But my thought is either Heckert or Kralik (most likely)
      I have the exact same piece that is in PMC

      http://www.thegildedcurio.com/item-Heckert-667.html

      although mine is lined and a golden glass instead of green.

      But Loetz did do a uranium base green glass. It was pretty common from Loetz. Most of it is low enough uranium where my geiger counter doesn't get a strong hit (but it definitely goes up beyond the background level at my house) from it but it definitely Glows.

      I am not 100 percent it's not Loetz. the shape is ringing some bells (which is why I was too chicken to say anything earlier) and I still haven't gotten around to flipping thru a shape book, But I think it's far more likely to be one of the above (Kralik or Heckert)(or....) I am not sure I've seen any particular reasoning that makes me believe one glass house over another on this design. In my mind it still has a ? over it.

      Loetz did indeed do glass with no pontil scar but Cogito is right, I can't think of a single one I've seen in a phanomen design without one.

      Regardless of the name, it's a great piece of glass.
    9. kairomalte, 6 years ago
      This is neither Loetz nor Heckert, it is Kralik and there are many vases of differring typical Kralik shape known exhibiting this decor.
    10. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      cogito, thank you...I feel like I am batting O....but trying. And learning while making mistakes...and I appreciate all the help with all your comments XOXO
    11. cogito cogito, 6 years ago
      You are doing fine! I think this purchase shows that you are honing your eye for Bohemian glass. Kralik is perfectly respectable.
    12. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      cogito, thank you for your kind words and opinion. I guess changing the title and description to Kralik? Loetzbuddies thinks its Kralik too.
    13. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      Greatsnowyowl, I guess I got another Kralik? Thank you for all your help. I was hoping for something unusual or special this time...I am flying by the seat of my pants....:( But trying.....XOXOX Thank you for all your comments and loving. I feel like I am not alone :)))
      lee
    14. Zowie Zowie, 6 years ago
      Gee I have a lot to learn.
    15. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      Zowie, I do have a lot to learn in Bohemian glass! I have bought 9 kraliks in search of a Loetz :0 LMAO I need help!!!!
    16. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 6 years ago
      I am against the tide, but I am not convinced these are Kralik. They do have a lot in common with the Heckert Silberbands and I think a lot of stuff was attributed to Kralik that is not Kralik and the myth continues. At one point silber band was considered to be kralik and a lot of things were attributed based on that assumption, I am of the opinion that this line was probably attributed because of that.
      Maybe they are and maybe they aren't I'd need to see more evidence.

      But yeah, you shouldn't feel at all bad about this not being loetz. if you compare this to lower end loetz it's better than that. It's still a great piece of bohemian glass.
    17. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      Greatsnowyowl, I really appreciate your comments and thought! I do not think this is Kralik either. My gut, is that is something else...like you said. That is why there is still the question mark in the description. I am learning everyday...and I don't have books on any of the Bohemian Glass....and I am going on what I am learning here on CW. I am a mere pebble in the vase knowledge here on CW and feel a little embarrassed to be asking these questions. Thank you for taking the time to help me out ...and allowing me to make mistakes and correcting me on it. Thank you...so much!
      Lee
    18. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 6 years ago
      No problem, Lee. Everyone learns; everyone makes mistakes. You never stop learning and making mistakes (I know, I haven't LOL)
    19. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 6 years ago
      the other contender for these that people don't really know much about is Annin. Loetz's lil sister company. there was a piece that was A LOT like these two in the museum that had a lot of Annin and Kralik and loetz. (Jitka's display) it's the museum that sells the new loetz shape books.
    20. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 6 years ago
      unfortunately I wasn't able to get a sharp photo of it. pictures weren't allowed in that museum, but I am naughty by nature and managed to get everything on the sly. Just not very good pics because I had to rush it.
    21. Hedgewalker Hedgewalker, 6 years ago
      That is a beauty...does she glow ?
    22. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      Greatsnowyowl, you have been a blessing to me. I hope we can solve this question together :))) Thank you!
    23. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      Hedgewalker, it glows!!!!
    24. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 6 years ago
      https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jjfvQOkPznkUX1DJtkyZv_iepaC6HmOqHRqF2S98L-U?feat=directlink

      this is a link to the annin piece. it's yellow and it's hard to see but it's got the same sort of draping that my piece and this piece has. this little museum was hte only place I've seen annin displayed and there were only about 25-50 pieces displayed in all most of them clear deco tango type things or victorian. but they were around for a good long while.
    25. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      Greatsnowyowl, I see the resemblance!! WOW!! So what is this? This is so finely made..and every detail is exquisite! I could not believe what I was looking at when I flashed the black light on it!!! Is this rare?
    26. DrFluffy DrFluffy, 6 years ago
      Very pretty... I gotta get a black light...
    27. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      DrFluffy, I used a jewelers black light for testing gemstones...I forgot to buy a black light today... :0
    28. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      GSO, is this rare or a good find? Is this Loetz :)))
    29. Greatsnowyowl Greatsnowyowl, 6 years ago
      Of course, it's a good find. I'd say this pattern is fairly rare, It *might* be Annin which was a sister company to Loetz, but still Annin not Loetz. I am not sure what Annin was to Loetz. If it was their slightly lower end outlet or some sort of export thing or what? Very little is known about it. I think these very well *could* be Annin but I really don't know. I just have one example to go on. I didn't realize when we were there that Annin was a subsidiary of Loetz or I would have asked Jitka a lot more questions about it when we were there. They made some glass that was identical to what Harrach was putting out. that's most of the discussion we had about annin. There is no way to tell some of the 1860's Annin from Harrach. none at all. :)
      So in a nutshell.. maybe.. but I don't know for sure.
    30. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      GSO, I think that you gave me something to dream about!!! Thank you!! I think that I found a good "?" and a great lead! I think it is Annin , because the seller swore that this was a Loetz!! And this was out of his personal collection. He bought the vase from a huge collector who swore it was a Loetz. OR a Loetz type. But not Kralik....he was offended. He only collected Loetzs...lol. So who knows...
      You have been a blessing to me with this vase and others.....thank you from the bottom of my heart :) XOXOXOXO
    31. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      MattyG, thanks for the loving:)) Welcome back!
    32. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      pickrknows, thanks for loving!!
    33. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      tombraider, thanks for loving!
    34. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      Slave-to-glass, thanks for loving!
    35. Zowie Zowie, 6 years ago
      Hi again moon found the time in middle of night to have a look around before trying some more sleep or eye gets to sore, I don't even no have the names put out so learning I think I'm at the top of the list
    36. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      Zowie, you are at the top of my list :)) XOXOXOXO my friend!
    37. Zowie Zowie, 6 years ago
      Thank you moon for such kind words see I just learnt something new tonight the black light for gems that make them glow is it just glass or gemstones also.
    38. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      manddmoir, thank you for loving!!
    39. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      jagsrock95, thank you!
    40. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      musikchoo XOXOXOX
    41. Michelleb007 Michelleb007, 6 years ago
      Lee, I just saw this exact vase for sale on an English site today, listed as Kralik. I thought you might want to see it:
      http://www.manddmoir.co.uk/phdi/p1.nsf/supppages/moir?opendocument&part=6/
      I really like the shape!
    42. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      Michelleb007, thank you...I saw it...and I paid $125 with shipping...and it was luck..a buy it now. Thank you...I love the vase!!! XOXOX
      Lee
    43. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      MattyG, XOXOXO
    44. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      Michelleb007, thank you!!!
    45. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      smiata, XOXOX
    46. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      Thank you everyone for all your loving and comments
    47. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      aldo78, thank you
    48. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      Lise, many thanks
    49. Moonstonelover.jr Moonstonelover.jr, 6 years ago
      Cool Mom!!!
    50. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 6 years ago
      I hope I'm not commenting too much on your stuff, stuff-probably wrong choice of words- but OMG!!! Ca=razy amazing. If I ever was to see in person all that beauty, someone would have to pick up my jaw off the floor for me...:)
    51. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      shareurpassion, no problem...ask away! Thank you...I am in love with everyone of my vases! And yes...all are more incredible to look at in person! That is why I am in love with all. Its like gemstones in glass!
      Lee
    52. shareurpassion shareurpassion, 6 years ago
      Thank you Moonstone, you are so very kind. It's nice to meet you :)
    53. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      shareurpassion, nice meeting you! I hope you are well and happy :)
      Lee
    54. kivatinitz kivatinitz, 6 years ago
      I have got a similar one but it is the older brother, it has 36 cm height....14" .... it glows and the shape it is exactly the same
    55. Moonstonelover21 Moonstonelover21, 6 years ago
      kivatinitz, sounds really nice! Would love to acquire another one...sometime in the future :)
      Lee

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