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    Posted 5 years ago

    austrohung…
    (583 items)

    This vase lives at the Other House and I quite like it... probably because of its simplicity. I've never been a huge fan of fan-shaped vases... but this one is so simple I cannot but like it.

    In the last weeks I had seen Welzebub sharing a couple of Welz tango vases ( http://www.collectorsweekly.com/user/welzebub ) that did remind me of this one, even if the shapes were different... what made me think of this one at the sight of Welzebub's Welz vases? Well, first of all I had never linked Welz with a traditional plain tango decor. Second, the shape of the foot -which I really think it is not a very important thing... shapes can be so easily copied- and then the fact of the parallel glass lines appearing in both of them...

    On pic.3 I added a few of Welsebub's items and a couple of Lötz items. I placed them here because -even if I didn't think at all our white and red vase is a Lötz- the shape of the green one and the spyral decor in the orange one makes me think of ours.

    In any case, thanks to WELZEBUB's help I've been able to identify it as a Kralik vase. Thanks soooo very much!!!!

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    1. SEAN68 SEAN68, 5 years ago
      stunning austro!!! Jerrod has been trying get hold of you on fb :)
    2. sklo42 sklo42, 5 years ago
      At the risk of upsetting Sean I think it is stunnig
    3. welzebub, 5 years ago
      Really pretty example....... I believe this is a Kralik fan vase, and seen in a variety of color combinations. This is one of the more unusual (and nicer) color combinations I have seen. I really like this one.....
    4. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 5 years ago
      Thanks seAN! Please tell him to send me a private message... I will keep an eye on the "Others" section :)
    5. SEAN68 SEAN68, 5 years ago
      lmao!!! sklo!!!
    6. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 5 years ago
      Also thanks WELZEBUB for your love!!!
    7. SEAN68 SEAN68, 5 years ago
      ok , iwill do that!!! :)
    8. SEAN68 SEAN68, 5 years ago
      your very welcome austro!!!
    9. sklo42 sklo42, 5 years ago
      Oops spelling mistake! And I actually wrote my comment before seeing SEAN's.
    10. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 5 years ago
      oooops, I got a lot of messages i didn't read!!! :)

      So a Kralik vase? I'll look in that direction, thanks WELZEBUB!!!!

      You really made me laugh, SKLO! I think noone else feels in the right to say Stunning any more ;) LOL And thanks so much for your love too!!!
    11. SEAN68 SEAN68, 5 years ago
      lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    12. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 5 years ago
      WELZEBUB, i have just seen a simmilar vase signed Czechoslovakia with the same shape and decor only in transparent sand glass with a blue spyral line around... only that one is optically ribbed.

      I'll keep on searching Kraliks and will change the heading and text! :)
    13. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 5 years ago
      Definitely Kralik! I have seen another one at one of Alfredo's posts (http://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/34676-kralik-fan-shapes-i)

      Thanks so many thanks for your help WELZEBUB!!!!
    14. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 5 years ago
      Thanks MANI for loving it!!! :)
    15. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 5 years ago
      Thanks AGH for your love!!! :)
    16. Michelleb007 Michelleb007, 5 years ago
      I need to ask - how on earth did they do such perfect spiral work? It is amazing. I really wonder how they did it.
    17. welzebub, 5 years ago
      Michelle, I believe the piece would have been made in a conical form and then the threading applied using a threading machine. After it was applied, the piece was likely heated up again and formed to a fan shape by squeezing it a little. Generally these examples have some form of tooling marks visible on the body of the piece. More so on the ones in the transparent body colors which Austro described.....

      Mechanical threading machines were first developed, patented and used in England pre 1880. In 1876, William James Hodgetts patented the first machine for applying threading. He was part of the firm Hodgetts, Richardson & Son. A couple of years later William Henry Stevens of Stevens & Williams patented a different design machine for threading glass also. I do not know if the Czechs used English designed machines or developed their own, but in any case, it was done with the aid of a mechanical device which pulled the thread from a gather to apply to a formed piece.

      Kralik, Welz, Loetz, and many other companies used these types of "machines" for their production.
    18. Michelleb007 Michelleb007, 5 years ago
      Craig, thanks so much for the information! That explains perfectly how they did the threading on the fan shape. I was wondering about that part, especially. It would be so neat if an old glass threading machine was found, just to see how it worked mechanically. Thanks again!
    19. welzebub, 5 years ago
      I have looked for pics... if I find some I will let you know. Someone may be able to provide a link to some pics......
    20. welzebub, 5 years ago
      I have a copy of British Glass 1800-1914 by Charles Hajdmach. If I have a chance I will go through it and see if there are some pics in there.......
    21. Michelleb007 Michelleb007, 5 years ago
      Thank you, Craig. You are always a font of glass knowledge! :)
    22. blunderbuss2 blunderbuss2, 5 years ago
      I was going to say, If it's so simply made, can you explain how it was done so consistently? Welzebub answered that I burst my bubble. LOL. "Stunning"! LOL!
    23. welzebub, 5 years ago
      I looked through Hajdmach this morning and could not find an image of a threading machine, although it reminded me that there are some very interesting images of different devices and technologies employed in the production of glass. A book worth owning if one would like an understanding of some of the glass production techniques.
    24. welzebub, 5 years ago
      I just realized I have misspelled the authors name twice now. It is Charles R. Hajdamach and not Hajdmach
    25. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 5 years ago
      Thanks everybody for your my loves: SOULPORTAL, MOONSTONE, SOULPORTAL, HO2CULTCHA, RICK, DrFLUFFY, PATSEA, COBALT, RACER, IAN, BLUNDERBUSS, VLADIMIR, MIKE, MICHELLE, JEWELS, VIOLET and SURFDUB!!!
    26. Vintagefran Vintagefran, 5 years ago
      Wow...fabulous. I love threads on glass. It looks wonderful on here. It's the first time I've seen it on this shaped vase
    27. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 5 years ago
      Thanks for loving FREIHEIT, INKY, BRATJDD, IZENGLISH, HYP-STORIAN, FRAN and THAMESHOUSE!!!
      I'm glad you like it FRAN! if you google Kralik Fan Vase you'll find a couple of them... but not solid colour Tango!
    28. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 5 years ago
      Thanks for loving MANIKIN and FANCIGIRL!!
    29. austrohungaro austrohungaro, 5 years ago
      Thanks ROSE and RADEGUNDER for your love!!!

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