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    Posted 9 months ago

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    This webbed décor is often described as Kralik though, as far as I know, that is only speculation. Lately, Steinwald has been suggested. Could be - or could be another factory that has not yet even been considered. As was pointed out in an earlier discussion, we are not likely to get any definitive answers in most of our lifetimes.
    The green vase stands 7½" (19 cm) tall; the red one is a little under 7" (17.5 cm) tall. These two shapes can be found with a rather quick internet search to décors represented as Kralik. (Apologies here - the group shot is of pictures lifted, uncredited, from the internet. If there are any objections, I will delete that image.) The shape of the green one is a little easier to find in different décors - the shape of the red one seems to only appear, aside from in different color webbing, in a millefiori décor long assumed to be Kralik.
    Does this mean these vases are Kralik? In my mind, no. Nor does it mean that they are Steinwald or anybody else. But this is just an introductory beat around the bush to get to the third picture (again, an unauthorized internet lift) which shows a "Wave" pattern décor on a "Zig Zag" shape. Neither this "Wave" nor the "Webbed" décors or the shapes I've shown are particularly complicated and could easily have been made in similar variations by more than one glass house but that "Zig Zag" shape was probably copied less frequently.

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    1. larksel larksel, 9 months ago
      Very interesting post and comparison. Thanks for this post. In my opinion, another argument in favor of Steinwald. I think all these vases are from ES&C. But it is only my opinion based on the used shapes that occur in several decors that were made (most likely) by the glassworks ES&C (especially: Flowerall in different variants of the base, Osiris, Bambus, vase "Caged" from the Museum of Glass and Bijouterie in Liberec and decors from Steinwald's Lamp shade Catalog, item number 125 in publication NEW FORMATIONS by the Houston Museum of Fine Arts, and finally from a part of a showcase dedicated to the E. Steinwald glassworks in the Museum of Glass in Passau). A number of posts from various collectors presented here at CW also contributed to my conviction.
    2. Manikin Manikin, 9 months ago
      Stunning pieces !
    3. artfoot artfoot, 9 months ago
      Thank you Manikin and to all who enjoyed this post.

      Alés says "I think all these vases are from ES&C. But it is only my opinion based on the used shapes that occur in several decors that were made (most likely) by the glassworks ES&C" but believing does not make it so. You may end up being right - I can even hope you are - but I'm going to need something a little more substantial to be convinced. Other than visiting the museums (I have seen pictures), I think I have seen everything else cited in the response and I'm not seeing these décors or shapes anywhere tied to ES&C. The crimped fan vase? I suspect the Houston ID is a case of mistaken identity but there is a similarity to the ES&C line drawing only without the donuts above the foot. Can you show one of these crimped fan vases with the donuts? In any décor? Can you show either of the other shapes, or the fan, in a known (lamp) décor? Then maybe we can follow along with your leap of faith.
    4. kralik1928 kralik1928, 9 months ago
      Nice post perfect for my two cents.

      The first two decors (pic 1) are different - the lime one is applied rod to a black base color while the red one is more blended - as if a rod was rolled into a vat of violet molten glass - the lime green one could have been made by one of three or more makers: Ruckl, ES&Co and others. Winding a color rod into a base color is a shared technique

      That big jug shape I think is ES&Co but the ïsmaller one might be a different maker (fairly generic shape)

      I do agree those in pic 2 might be different makers

      The zig-zag vase I believe could be at least two makers ES&Co (Bambus and other decors) and Tomschick

      The fan vase was published in a book some 20 years ago as ES&Co, I don’t remember the book but I’m sure somebody can find it.

      I have a pic of the fan vase (included in the ES&Co advertisement)- the colors are semi-transparent white with transparent red threading and applications. This shape was attributed some 20 years ago in a book -does someone have it? If I’m not mistaken the shape is similar a Rhindscopf version do two makers here...
    5. kralik1928 kralik1928, 9 months ago
      I do think ES&Co made large Bambus types (seen in caged pieces) although there are many reasons to think the smaller ones were made by a different maker -because there are no large marked Bambus types only small

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